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Microsoft and Nokia Team Up Over Smartphones
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Msg#: 4265558 posted 10:45 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Microsoft and Nokia Team Up Over Smartphones [bbc.co.uk]
Nokia has joined forces with Microsoft in an attempt to regain ground lost to the iPhone and Android-based devices. The deal would see Nokia use the Windows phone operating system for its smartphones, the company said. Microsoft's Bing will power Nokia's search services, while Nokia Maps would be a core part of Microsoft's mapping services.

Speaking at a meeting to launch the new strategic partnership Mr Elop said that "the game has changed from a battle of devices to a war of ecosystems".

"An ecosystem with Microsoft and Nokia has unrivalled scale around the globe," he said.


 

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 11:10 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Surely this was inevitable given Elops former job?


Interesting that Nokia shares dropped 9% on the news.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 11:41 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Android is hype. Hype drives share prices... sad, but true!

IMHO that can be a good move, but they have to overcome the "slow moving dinosaur" problem. Apple has the "we have the whole range super integrated, from device to desktop to shop and it is super easy" barrier, that both companies will have a hard time to overcome!

Android has the "Open Source is so flexible and everybody can come up with great enhancements" myth to bring to the table.

I understand the share price drop, but maybe their money and business power will produce something useful!

2 cents,
P!

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 11:46 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

One thing that Nokia and Microsoft both do, is to announce new products a very long time before they are actually available.

Apple seem to have a much shorter timescale, likely because they usually start making and warehousing their new products long before they announce the launch.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 1:50 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

The wags are out on twitter:

"Microsoft just bought Nokia for $0."

"Hey! It looks like you're searching for a credible smartphone platform to revive market confidence! Would you like some help with that?"

"Oh so Now you can get viruses and malware on your phone? Uh huh, that will certainly make Nokia products more attractive."

"Two turkeys do not make an eagle."

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 2:24 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

^^^ Agree. :-)

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 3:36 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

There seems to be a consensus in the media as well as among the stock market analysts that Nokia using Win Phone 7 is a wrong move. I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of these people have never used Win Phone 7 and a significant percentage of these anti-microsoft people have never used any Android phone either.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 3:51 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of these people have never used Win Phone 7


This is a very true statement. But there is a good reason why no one has used it. MS has dug themselves into a hole from their previous mobile OS. They are so far behind that they may not get a chance to have folks see their new OS.

It may be the best thing since sliced bread, but if everyone is happy with Android and iPhones, who really cares to check it out?

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 4:19 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Upstart smartphone makers are speeding ahead and this now gives us an additional choice.

I watched the launch of Windows Phone 7 and it looked pretty good. I haven't managed to get hold of a phone to play with, so it's difficult to say more.

Without doubt, Nokia needs a boost and Windows Phone 7 needs a boost. This may be a good partnership.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 4:24 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Both were dead in the water without the other. This was a must for both to have a chance. If it is not already too late.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 4:59 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

"Two turkeys do not make an eagle."


Exactly what I was thinking, just in a snappier phrasing!

:)

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 12:02 pm on Feb 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

Surely this was inevitable given Elops former job?


and given that he has a few million dollars of MS shares.

Take a look at Nokia's new organisational structure too. Two divisions accountable for the same platforms?

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 2:02 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

And now Nokia sues Apple. Coincidence? I guess not.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 2:26 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

There seems to be a consensus in the media as well as among the stock market analysts that Nokia using Win Phone 7 is a wrong move.


Do any of these people have a Nokia phone? I think not.

Fact is, Nokia had to do something. They sell plenty of dumb phones but are irrelevant in the smartphone race which is the future of phones. And guess what, Nokia got BILLIONS of dollars from Microsoft to do the deal. Might as well cut the fat (Symbian programmers, supposedly 1500 of them, wow) and try to get back in the race.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 8:22 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

I am a Nokia fan. But I hate the idea of a Windows Phone on a Nokia handset. For me, Android + Nokia is the ultimate winner.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 5:14 am on Feb 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

Would have liked to see them hookup with HP (Palm OS). I used to use Nokia phones and it was nice that they just worked, kinda like the Palm OS just works. I had a Palm device with Win Mobile on it and I can't imagine what it would take to go back to a phone with a Windows OS on it.

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Msg#: 4265558 posted 4:30 am on Feb 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

Palm OS is dead. It's webOS now, which Google, Apple, Rim and now Microsoft are happy to copy from in their respective mobile OSes. Just last week, Microsoft unveiled the card interface similar to webOS. WP7 copied the synergy features of webOs where all your contacts are aggregated in one place.

This is turkey alright. I would prefer Nokia to just die... Microsoft too. Glad to see MeeGo and Symbian pushed aside. Now time for BlackBerry and Microsoft to be pulverized. Problem is Microsoft will keep on pushing WP7 and force feed it to people and carriers even if we don't want that stuff.

Only platforms that should remain, in my opinion is the Silicon Valley trinity Apple, HP and Google. The rest is all crap without any real progress or innovation. Apple drives the business models and designs, HP drives the technological innovation and Google disrupts. All the other players add nothing to the game. I wish Nokia would just disappear and Microsoft stick to desktop Windows and Office.

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