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What's the Future For Apple's iPhone With Android Devices On A Roll
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msg:4253392
 5:35 pm on Jan 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

link [newsweek.com]
Now that Apple will be selling the iPhone on Verizon, is Google’s Android smart-phone operating system doomed? Verizon, after all, has been a big reason for Android’s success. The carrier has spent the past two years promoting the heck out of Android, mostly because Verizon needed something that could compete with iPhone, which was carried exclusively on AT&T.

Early on, Android phones were pitched as kind of ersatz iPhones, devices that could do most of what an iPhone did—but were available on carriers other than AT&T, a relatively horrible network that was the biggest source of complaints about Apple’s transformative device. Apple’s chief operating officer, Tim Cook, said at yesterday’s event that the question he’s heard more than any other over the past few years has been, “When will the iPhone be available on Verizon?”

There will be huge demand for the Verizon iPhone. And if this event had taken place a year ago, I would have said Android was in trouble. Who wants to buy an ersatz iPhone when you can get the real thing?

“Android is a global phenomenon,” he says. “The big deal is, Android is free software, and handsets that can run it are getting super-cheap. So we are going to see a massive shift from 'dumb phones' to 'smart phones' around the world this year, and iPhone will not be the big beneficiary of that trend.”


 

scooterdude




msg:4253404
 5:46 pm on Jan 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

perhaps we should remember another time when a great power offered an item free that others would have preferred to be able to charge for

Sierra_Dad




msg:4253760
 9:29 pm on Jan 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

Predictive articles about iPhone and Android are often less about any facts and more about whichever phone is attached to the person writing the article.

I'm sure you can find an article that will state this:
1. This is the death toll for Android.
2. All those using Android phones really wanted an iPhone and were just biding their time.
3. Android has no future because it is "fragmented" (yawn).
4. Verizon was only doing this Android phone thing because it didn't have an iPhone.
5. Verizon will now drop all Android phones now that their bluff worked.
etc . . .

Despite that, there is some truth that if the iPhone had been available on Verizon, before November 2009 and the Droid, it would have slowed the rise of Android quite a bit more than it will now.
But that doesn't mean that offering it now is useless. It will help those who are loyal to iPhone be able to choose their carrier.
It will allow those who are loyal to Verizon choose an iPhone if they choose.
Apple and Verizon both win.
AT&T may not lose much. In the long run, I assume all carriers will get saturated and people will hate them equally.

Sierra_Dad




msg:4254702
 5:51 pm on Jan 18, 2011 (gmt 0)


I'm sure you can find an article that will state this:
1. This is the death toll for Android.
2. All those using Android phones really wanted an iPhone and were just biding their time.
3. Android has no future because it is "fragmented" (yawn).
4. Verizon was only doing this Android phone thing because it didn't have an iPhone.
5. Verizon will now drop all Android phones now that their bluff worked.
etc.


Well, guess what. Here's an article that claims at least 1,2 and 4.

[beatweek.com ]

Among the gems:

But among the non-geek majority, the sentiment has always been that the iPhone was the preferred phone, and the majority of Verizon Droid sales were a direct result of Verizon not offering the iPhone


Note, no opinion polls are cited, it's just common knowledge.

I guess if you can't get an unbiased perspective, you can at least get several biased ones.

incrediBILL




msg:4254708
 6:06 pm on Jan 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

Too amusing.

Everyone forgets that the world doesn't revolve around Verizon nor is Apple the center of the Universe.

There happens to be a slew of companies out there making phones which were making phones long before Apple came around and they're happily cranking out Android phones trying to raise the bar each time to give Apple and the iPhone a run for their money.

So far, they've succeeded and Android devices are now outselling Apple devices by about 50% at the moment.

Considering HTC, LG, Samsung, etc. won't be shipping iOS phones anytime soon, so you can expect them to keep the heat on Apple and price will be part of it.

BTW, that so-called fragmented Android platform provides customers with something called "choice", something Apple doesn't offer, Apple has 1 phone, take it or leave it.

With Android you can find phones in sizes ranging from small to hulking huge (EVO) and even get a "gasp" slide out keyboard.

Keyboard you say?

Apple iPhone has no keyboard!

Many people like having a keyboard that doesn't share screen real estate yet they're ignored and the iPhone 5 is even supposedly removing that single button on the front!

Like I said, with Android, you get personal choices, not just Steve Jobs choices.

incrediBILL




msg:4254791
 7:50 pm on Jan 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

Here's an interesting insight on this topic:
[gigaom.com...]
What is surprising, at least to me, is that even though iPhone owners show the most loyalty, they’re not the group that’s most likely to stick with their current platform. That distinction belongs to Google Android owners, 89 percent of which expect their new smartphone to run Android too. By comparison, 85 percent of iPhone owners surveyed expect to stick with Apple for their next phone.


So maybe that doesn't mean such a win for iPhone on Verizon if those poll results mean anything.

I also read an article the other day I can't find at the moment that claimed Verizon could lose up to $450M(USD) subsidizing upgrades of existing customers to iPhones, not the potential watershed of AT&T defectors many speculate about.

I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

artek




msg:4254902
 12:14 am on Jan 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Especially when you consider the latest news from Apple.


Peter Oppenheimer, Apple CFO said:

We sold more Macs, iPhones, and iPads than any quarter Apple’s history.

4.13 million Macs. 23% growth over the year-ago. 8 times PC growth in the market.

16.2 million iPhones. 86% year over year growth. (70% growth from global smartphones overall)

$10.47 billion from sales of iPhone and accessories.


iPad sold 7.3 million units.

In 46 countries now

Over 80% of Fortune 100 are deploying or testing iPad

Revenue: $4.61 billion. $4.4 billion for iPads alone.

Article here [techcrunch.com]


In the most recent quarter Apple sold 7.33 million iPads, 19.45 million iPods and 4.13 million Macs. Sales of the iPhone jumped 86 percent to 16.24 million units.

Article here [cnbc.com]

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