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Iphone is going to be left in the dust
ogletree




msg:4048956
 4:39 pm on Dec 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think Android is raising the bar that Apple has tried so hard to not raise. Apple is doing what they did with desktops back in the 80's. They made a closed system again. Android is going do to the Iphone what Windows did to IBM. I don't get why they can't learn from their mistakes. Money has never been in hardware it is all about software.

 

bouncybunny




msg:4051330
 11:00 am on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

Here's evidence of iPhone getting dusted already:

Which parts of those opinion pieces count as evidence?

incrediBILL




msg:4051433
 3:36 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

Which parts of those opinion pieces count as evidence?

The topic is, if I'm not mistaken "Iphone is going to be left in the dust"

It was left in the dust of opinion, when it previously was the golden child of those opinions.

Losing mind share, being upstaged, it's all part of the process.

J_RaD




msg:4051495
 4:58 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

so a top 10 list from time is your validation that the iphone is getting left in the dust?

if you have enough advertising $$ you can hype anything and give the perception that its bigger then it really is.

New devices also have a sudden spike in sales when they 1st come out.

bouncybunny




msg:4051507
 5:13 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

Losing mind share, being upstaged, it's all part of the process.

Hmm. A couple of techno journos have found something new to write about. We saw the same thing with the iPod - iRiver, Creative Zen etc. If that spreads to mainstream media, then it will be more interesting.

For the foreseeable future (admittedly never that far ahead in this market) there is little to show that the iPhone has any serious challengers. For the moment iPhone sales and hype still dominate.

Harry




msg:4051583
 6:53 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

The Palm Pre was in the top 10 of Popular Mechanics and was in the top 10 of topics being twitted about in 2009. Does that mean that it's on its way to displace the iPhone, Blackberry and Nokia?

gosh...

Sierra_Dad




msg:4051626
 8:05 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

Coming back to the topic, then, is Iphone going to be left in the dust?

Gartner predicts that Android will outpace Iphone in 2012.

[computerworld.com ]

I think it is a good assumption. These people may be just as biased as us but they also have more money for research than we do. I think that it is likely that Android will be at or above the number of IPhone units in 2012.

But the other question is will the growth of Android be at the expense of IPhone? Some of it may be. However, I think IPhone has grown at the expense of Windows Mobile and Symbian, and I expect that will be the case for
much of Android's growth as well.

Assuming that none of us make money just by predicting which OS will "win", what does this all mean to us?

Both Android and IPhone mean more browsing activity from phones.

Is it worthwhile to develop for Android? I'm hoping so, since I don't have a day job anymore and am pretty much betting the farm until I can either succeed or panic and get another job. Realistically, it's not going to be as lucrative as IPhone development for a while, but there is also less chance that there are twenty applications that already do what you're planning.

If you are planning to reach a large percentage of your audience, though, you may only reach 13-18% by targeting IPhone or Android. To get close to 100%, you might need to target Iphone, Android, Symbian, Windows Mobile, and maybe Palm.

Demaestro




msg:4051634
 8:16 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

The problem with Droid for me is that it gets customized and some of the great features Droid touts don't even exist on all the handsets that use Droid as the OS.

A great example of this are the HTC Magic and Dream phones... they pale in comparison to the iPhone 3GS and these are the only Droid phones in Canada right now that are offered at a discount with a plan.

I have been waiting and drooling over a Droid phone and when it came time to get one I didn't.... it just isn't there yet, and least not with HTC phones.

Give Droid a few more generations to catch up and it may out do iPhone... but currently it isn't in my opinion.

Keep in mind it took the iPhone many generations to get as far as it has got and it isn't perfect but it is way better then the orig iPhone.

IanKelley




msg:4051640
 8:38 pm on Dec 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

The problem with Droid for me

I think you mean ANdriod :-) The actual Droid phone (Verizon/Motorola) does all of the things you've heard about.

I hear that an upgrade from Android 1.5 to 2.0 will be available in early 2010 for some of the older/cheaper Andriod phones, which should add some features.

Demaestro




msg:4056326
 11:12 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Ian... I did.


So you can not only open the car door but start the car and open the garage door with a single device.

There used to be some cell phones that replaced smart remotes for TV, DVR and DVDs but it requires and IR interface and Android phones don't have one yet, but it could be a simple USB dongle to make it work.

We are in 2010 it is almost a shame that we don't already have this as default behavior in our "smart" phones.

I was wishing I had this all the other day. It's freaking cold here.

IanKelley




msg:4056367
 12:38 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

I got a Droid phone a few days ago, it does have an IR transmitter/receiver (two if you count the face proximity sensor on the front), but I have yet to find an app that can control it.

Nobias




msg:4056433
 2:31 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

The argument that because Android will be on every cell provider network and therefore will ultimately win is bogus.

I agree. Google tries to push Chrome in every imaginable way (including advertising it on its precious homepage), but still I don't see them ever overtaking IE or Firefox..

Harry




msg:4056453
 3:19 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Watched the Palm presentation at CES and its clear that there isn't just two players in this game. Palm is a smaller company, but it's still innovating and bringing value. I think I'll go download Need For Speed or the Sims and play with them on my phone for half an hour...

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