| 12:34 am on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
That's fairly unexpected news. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
| 12:50 am on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I didn't expect this. Opera Mini is a great browser. I think Apple have made the right decision.
| 1:14 am on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I'm sure AT&T gave their opinion of it as well as it'll be an easier load on the network.
| 5:32 am on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|I'm sure AT&T gave their opinion of it as well as it'll be an easier load on the network. |
In the grand scheme of network traffic, Opera vs Safari won't amount to a blip on the radar.
It's the streaming content killing AT&T, they've said as much, general browser usage is a drop in the bucket.
| 11:19 am on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Watched the demo. Pretty slick. Might just make my 2g iPhone worth keeping.
| 1:20 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Played with it for a few minutes. It's fast, but that's about it. Won't work on forms with sites I tried and text rendering at small sizes is not too good.
Also, pinch zooming appeared to be largely broken. It's free, but I'm not sure what all the fuss was about. Perhaps after a few bug fixes, I'll go back to it.
| 2:05 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|It's free, but I'm not sure what all the fuss was about. |
Speculating here, but I think it's more about an app that is mostly redundant of something Apple already produces getting approved.
| 2:33 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|Won't work on forms with sites I tried |
I think thats a common Opera mini issue, not just limited to the iPhone. I have the same issues under Android.
| 3:18 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I tried it and think I'm going to use it instead of the Safari browser. Initially I didn't like the small rendering of text when a page loads at first. But then I realized it was actually more efficient at zooming in and out by simply touching the area you want to read, instead of having to pinch it in and out. Very cool.
Plus it rendered the sections of the pages way more readable than Safari.
The tabbed browsing is awesome. The speed was killer. And I love how it does not refresh a page automatically when you jump from tab to tab. That annoyed me so much on Safari, since it would take 10-20 seconds sometimes to reload a page just when you wanted tab back to it.
No problem with forms here. I use forms to edit pages on my site(s). Worked great.
Nice first cut. Looking forward to using it more.
| 6:17 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Is it possible Apple may actually be grateful to Opera for their stance on Browser choice. It was Opera who pretty much started the ball rolling in the EU, and this would have gained Apple Safari more usage under Microsoft Windows. Perhaps allowing Opera into the App market was more of a corporate handshake.
| 8:41 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|And I love how it does not refresh a page automatically when you jump from tab to tab |
That drives me $€#%@&£ insane with Safari.
| 8:54 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I have it on my droid ... it needs pinch zoom.
| 11:18 pm on Apr 13, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Yea pinch would be a nice touch, but tap to zoom does work well.. just need to rethink how you use it.
| 4:01 am on Apr 14, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Not sure if this was mentioned already, but Adsense ads do not show up in the Opera Mini browser.
Nor does the native iPhone spell checker in text fields.
| 12:47 pm on Apr 16, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Tap to zoom in Opera Mini only zooms to one scale and back down again,. Essentially it is limited to only 2 views. Small and 100%. Safari can zoom right in and down in any increment you choose.
I think that's the thing we are forgetting. This isn't a fully fledged browser on a mobile device, as Safari is, it's a mobile optimised browser (hence the 'Mini'), with all the advantages (speed) and disadvantages that brings.
I notice that it seems to use it's own copy and paste functionality (which is also unusably broken). This doesn't seem like a finished product at all.
It is far better for some sites than Safari, when using 3G. Probably partly due to it lacking the ability to get bogged down by Adsense and other things which Safari tries to load. From that point of view, it's great to have around. It's not a Safari replacement yet though.
| 4:37 pm on Apr 16, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Is it possible to make Opera the default browser on iPhone? I know this can't be done on droid. Any system that opens a browser calls for Chrome.
| 7:03 pm on Apr 17, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I just realized it seems to use a proxy server for all requests as well. That was interesting, and somewhat disturbing from a privacy perspective.
Am I paranoid or is anyone else bothered by this?
Oh, it I guess it does not seem to work with the comment form here at WebmasterWorld. I was unable to post a comment. Just kept refreshing the page.
| 9:05 pm on Apr 17, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Opera mini uses server side compression, thats why its quicker than most conventional mobile browsers. When you request a page, your request is sent to Opera's servers. The servers then make the http request for the content, compress it and return the compressed format to your browser.
You can more or less visualize the process by looking at the status bar.. Very slow to begin with then it speeds up.