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Opera Launches Their "Web Standards" Curriculum
tedster

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 5:25 am on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Opera just launched their Web Standards Curriculum [opera.com], with 23 initial articles and about 30 more to come.

Looks excellent to me. I know I can learn more, and I certainly know many resistive html and css coders who I plan to introduce to this resource. It sure beats trying to decipher some of the more academic W3C pages! The articles begin here [dev.opera.com].

Opera's Bruce Lawson comments:
At Opera, we've heard lots of anecdotes about the poor quality of education out there, with web design being stuck in the late 90s (mal-)practice. The fact that graduates are hitting the job market without any idea of web standards, accessibility or user-centric design is bad for our industry, bad for all industry because every organisation needs a webs site, and it's bad for the Web itself.

[juicystudio.com...]


 

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 6:44 am on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

What a great idea!
I just skimmed through some of the stuff they have available already and it looks very usable. I hope a lot of people can benefit from this (myself included).

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 9:10 am on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just sent out two links to a new client who is relatively clueless about the web. This is going to save me a lot of client education time and stop some "debates" before they get started.

mikedee

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 12:56 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have 1 more quote for their testimonials.

You should use W3C standards - Eric Law (Microsoft IE Team)

[blogs.msdn.com...]

It is glad to see they are now behind W3C standards... We just have to wait for them to actually implement them rather than just talk about them.

zuko105

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 2:38 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

We just have to wait for them to actually implement them

I think I remember an article mentioning IE8 is going to offer better support (proper rendering) for W3C standards.

menial

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 5:01 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't care too much about standards, but I'm leaning more and more towards using Opera as my main browser, it has all you need and more (plus it feels it's safer than IE and FF).

poppyrich

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 5:11 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just spent the last ten minutes reading it - starting with the first article. Got bored, irritated really, and stopped.

They need a good editor to cut out the cruft from this stuff. Way, way too long-winded.

Gotta cut down on the word count, fellas, you can't bore people into using standards-based techniques.

They're asking for feedback. This is mine.

ronin

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 8:19 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Agree with poppyrich.

Excellent initiative but for heaven's sake, Chris Mills, if this is for mass consumption, keep it: pithy, abrupt, to the point.

Let an editor loose on your copy with a chainsaw. You'll end up with something you can be proud of and everyone can benefit from.

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 8:36 pm on Jul 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

<< quietly agrees with above two posts

I was only able to navigate series using back button :(.. no next links?

ooops sorry they're now at the top, still not very accessible or obvious after you've read the article though

[edited by: SuzyUK at 8:40 pm (utc) on July 9, 2008]

lavazza

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 5:27 am on Jul 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

This is going to save me a lot of client education time and stop some "debates" before they get started.

One mantra I hum: No-one has EVER won an argument with a client

After a quick skim, I was bored and a tad embarrassed to think that my repeated recommendations of the browser will/might be associated with something so dry

Unless (until?) it's very heavily edited, I very much doubt I'll be using it to back up the 'standards' approach

Making Opera WSC work for you

For educators

For students

For Web developers

For businesses

For the Web

They missed one:

For Insomniacs

poppyrich

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Msg#: 3694064 posted 10:27 pm on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Glad it ain't just me.

Shocking, considering how much good stuff there is out there in print and on the net that could be re-worked. No need to re-invent the wheel.

They'd be better off making a deal with W3schools or somesuch for a special edition of their content.

It's been done, and done better.

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