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is seting up a home server for rent worth it?
is seting up a home server for rent worth it?
DeKore




msg:4130228
 4:31 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

i have a 256-512 RAM, 10 gb free disc space pc... and internet speed somewhere 80 kb/sek.

my question is....

is turning that PC in to a server and renting it for some1 worth it?
they pay me for letting them use it.

what do you think?

 

chasehx




msg:4130241
 4:37 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

If you have the spare computing power why not? That is if someone is willing to deal with it. Personally I would not use a server behind a personal router for anything though. If I were you I would just use if for yourself, turn it into a gateway or something else useful like that :)

LifeinAsia




msg:4130248
 4:38 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

Are you going to provide 7/24 technical support? Can you guarantee 99.99% uptime (no electrical outages, no Internet outages, etc.)? Do you at least have a firewall for minimal security against hacking?

Realistically, the specs you gave for your box are far worse than every single desktop or notebook I own, let alone servers. I doubt someone would actually pay for that. But then again, there are a lot of crazy/stupid people in the world...

DeKore




msg:4130349
 6:12 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

lets say that i can provide 100% full service....
but can i do it with min 256 RAM and 10 gb and 80 kb/sek internet?
and who want servers? whats the biggest demand for severs this days?

plz answer the questions exactly

tangor




msg:4130359
 6:18 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

Might be useful for local access, but not for international. And very niche related to keep traffic minimal. One can do anything... the question is if one can CONTINUE to do it to the satisfaction of the customer. It is uptime and server security which is the greatest problems (my opinion) followed by the pipe size and storage capacity and maintaining patches and upgrades.

DeKore




msg:4130365
 6:28 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

ok...
lets say i can provide both security and 100% full service....

but is it worth then?
will my server bring income?

LifeinAsia




msg:4130366
 6:30 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

Major issues I see:
1) Only 256M RAM *may* be enough for static HTML pages.
2) Considering that 80K is barely above dial-up, I doubt many people would be interested. They could get better speed through their own DSL or cable connection.
3) Speaking of that, what do YOU have for your Internet connection and what are the terms of service for your provider? Most forbid running servers from home.

DeKore




msg:4130377
 6:41 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

okokok...

be very honest... what are the absolute minimum system/internet requirements for a profitable server?

and explain why most forbid running servers from home?

topr8




msg:4130407
 7:09 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

>>and internet speed somewhere 80 kb/sek.

you will probably find this is your download speed, the upstream speed is most likely much slower.

LifeinAsia




msg:4130410
 7:14 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

As a consumer with static HTML pages for a hobby web site, I probably wouldn't be interested in anything less than a T1 for the Internet connection. And if I ever saw it down (or heard it was down from users) more than once, I'd be complaining. So you'd need redundant Internet pipes.

As a consumer with a business site, I'd probably demand redundant T3 pipes at least. I have a database and dynamic pages, so 2G RAM would be a minimum (and that's only with a small database). I would also expect the server to be houses in a secure, climate controlled data center with automatic fire suppression system and redundant electrical backups, and 7/24 monitoring and support with qualified technical staff.

what are the absolute minimum system/internet requirements for a profitable server?

To be honest, you're only going to be profitable with economies of scale from many, many servers in a dedicated data center. Do some research for hosting plans and you'll likely find that everyone else is going to beat you on price.

For the business customer, your server is nowhere near adequate. And a hobby user can get far more than you offer for less than you would charge just to break even.

explain why most forbid running servers from home?

because most ISPs offer non-commercial service for lines to people's homes. They charge much more for commercial service (because they can, and because commercial users typically require higher levels of service and more throughput than home users).

DeKore




msg:4130425
 7:39 pm on May 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

i thank you LifeinAsia for saving me from making a mistake :):)

but ok... now i understand =)


one more question!

is there ANYTHING profitable i can do with my weak home server? anything at all... and it doesn't need to be on a large scale... and also i only want to make poket money (for now at least)

tangor




msg:4130910
 4:59 pm on May 11, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have an old computer that still runs great but can't really be upgraded to new OS, etc. Just for fun I set up a nostalgia ansi dialup BBS on one phone line. Contacted all my old BBS buddies and said "have fun!". They did. And over the last two years the BBS has managed to accumulate a 40-45 user base in the local area who are willing to defray the phone line (basic service, inbound fixed, metered outbound... I do no outbound!) and 100 or so more new visitors each month, most of whom giggle, have a little fun, then never return. The BBS runs a message board, code board, news board, no files. This is truly "local" connectivity. I also offer what's left of Fidonet, too.

Not getting rich, but is costing next to nothing, promotes goodwill, and is a grand trip down memory lane for all of us who lived and breathed CP/M, DOS, and OS2 back in the day.

lammert




msg:4131192
 5:04 am on May 12, 2010 (gmt 0)

With a small local PC you should try to offer something to people which is specific to your location. Some things which come up:
  • A website based weather station with the local weather situation
  • A high precision NTP time server which uses a GPS antenna to obtain precise timing (requires Linux or FreeBSD running on your computer)
  • A webcam (although 80 kbs may be a little bit slow to serve many people)

Pocket money could be generated with a contextual advertising service like AdSense.

serutan




msg:4141298
 4:50 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

tangor -- wow, that's pretty cool and makes me nostalgic. Back in the 80s I wrote my own bbs from scratch in Turbo Pascal and ran it for a couple years -- it was called "Tomb of the Unknown Modem." Think I'll dig a 5" floppy drive out of the junk box and see if the source disk is still readable after 20+ years.

wheel




msg:4145929
 9:18 pm on Jun 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

be very honest... what are the absolute minimum system/internet requirements for a profitable server?

It doesn't matter what your minimums are. Huge datacenters have everything you have and more - including huge computing power, monster bandwidth, fast ping times, support, unlimited websites and so on.

In fact, I got all that last year for $6.95US for a year. A.whole.year.

Are you going to give me all that for $7 a year? I don't believe you if you say yes.

The short answer is that far better hosting than what you can provice is already commonly available, at prices so low it's ridiculous to try and compete.

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