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Bing Now Powers Up to 30% Of Web Searches
Brett_Tabke




msg:4452452
 2:06 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

[techcrunch.com...]

According to the latest data from Experian Hitwise, Bing-powered searches ó that is searches on Bing.com and search.yahoo.com ó now account for 30.01% of all U.S. searches. By itself, Bing grew 16% year-over-year and 5% month-over-month and now accounted for 14.32% of all U.S. searches in April 2012. Yahoo grew somewhat slower, but still at a respectable 5% month-over-month and 7% year-over-year.

Things didnít quite look so rosy for Google, though. Searches on Google.com, according to Hitwise, declined 3% in April 2011 compared to the previous month and were down 5% year-over-year. Google, of course, still remains far ahead of its competition. In April, almost 64.5% of all U.S. searches were powered by Google.

 

brotherhood of LAN




msg:4452453
 2:37 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've found Google less useful over the past week or two and I'm never quick to doubt their results. Clicking "verbatim" is getting tiring.

Bing's % growth given their baseline number is really beginning to catch up. I hope it gets reflected in the UK and elsewhere.

jonathanleger




msg:4452456
 2:55 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

I expect Bing's growth to accelerate, both from their pairing up with Facebook and Twitter in their searches and from the abysmal results being shown for so many queries in Google after the flawed Penguin update.

J_RaD




msg:4452458
 3:10 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

GO BING!
I convert as many people as I can from goog.

bings customer support is also great... dial a number, GET A HUMAN, wow. If you don't get the brightest bulb on the phone the 1st time you can call back in but they have AWESOME follow up and normally the 2nd person you talk to is on the spot.

At any rate, its better then sending messages into a black hole and getting kicked around like a 2nd rate person.............that like totally gives you lots of money. *crazy*

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4452466
 4:05 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

The 500+ changes a year at Google, most of which were not requested by users, is taking its toll on their performance as is the incessant push to make people sign up to G+ when they aren't looking for a second social network. Will current Google leadership wake up in time to knock it off? Bings not waiting to find out and I STRONGLY suspect the new bing changes(adding social to the right of results) will even the playing field out further.

I'm happy with Bing at 30% though I'd prefer a 50/50 split, or perhaps even a 60/40 split in Bings favor if the 500+ yearly changes don't slow down in the name of stability. Almost every week your site does something odd an unexplained in Google results, not so with Bing.

Freedom




msg:4452471
 4:34 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Google doesn't provide relevant results anymore. People get frustrated.

webindia123




msg:4452510
 8:28 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

If at all Bing starts deep crawling websites.


Then surely it can extract more relevant results from authority sites and cement its gradual growth.

LK

Rockzer




msg:4452511
 8:29 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

I don't understand one thing from Bing, I don't receive a single visitor from bing, after adding bing code on my site. I am unsure what is wrong.. many webmaster claims they don't receive traffic @ all.

zeus




msg:4452512
 8:30 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think since Panda was launched the results has gone worth, also when I search with a 4-6 word string of keywords I get so crappy results that I dont click a single result. When you do a search for more popular keywords you also see many "big" sites show up in the results just be cause they have a few pages about topic, but which is not that much worth. Google image has also got worse since Panda.

I also tell everyone to use Bing and they gladly do be cause they are getting to big, with a lot of negative news every year in the news, nobody trust them anymore.

superclown2




msg:4452532
 10:15 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Leaving aside the fact that, in many verticals at least, Google is now a 'big brand only' search engine which doesn't value sites with real content, the adverse publicity they are getting for various practices won't be helping them. This can only accelerate as more actions are taken against them in several countries at government level. The real fall, when it comes, could be sudden and devastating.

It will be interesting to see what happens when the tipping point comes, as bigger sites optimise for Bing/Yahoo rather than Google. I already have a number of sites optimised in this way at the moment and I am more than happy with the results. Currently about 17% of my clicks (I'm in the UK) come from Bing/Yahoo but the amount of business I get from these clicks is much higher because of their superior conversion rate.

atlrus




msg:4452543
 10:37 am on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Bing has been doing a lot of good things lately.

The biggest change I've seen in the past few months is the "freshness" of the results. When I add content to my websites it gets into the Bing index within 1 minute, literally! And I don't have to create sitemaps or resubmit them, can you believe this?!? Very helpful when you have a ton of scrapers stealing your content faster than light. With Google I always worry that some ahole would scrape my original content before G grants me the good graces to stop by and index it...

Relevant and current topic articles from my "authority" sites get in the top 10 result right away and stay there a couple of days, giving people really up to date results, not Google's forum posts from 2008...

Bing still has a long way to go, but at least they are heading in the right direction

g1smd




msg:4452560
 12:05 pm on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Bing has been heavily advertising on TV for quite a few weeks now.

The problem I have is that months after a site was redesigned and all old URLs redirected to the new pages Bing still does not list the new URLs. Their indexing system seems inordinately slow.

Google listed many of the new URLs within days, had the lot within weeks, and took just over three months to drop all of the old URLs.

J_RaD




msg:4452604
 3:21 pm on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

sounds like some webmasters have night and day dealings with bing.

but at any rate.... way go to goog, keep shooting your feet off at an increasing rate! Just in time, as goog was right around the corner from 100% thinking it didn't need ANY small/med/large webmasters content.

heisje




msg:4452608
 3:43 pm on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Bing's index is a small fraction of G's index. G *has* the information. If, and when, Bing enlarges its index sufficiently (a costly endeavour) - many things on the 'net will change.

.

scooterdude




msg:4452624
 4:22 pm on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)


bing is my default search and its just fine

I just really wish I could figure out Bing indexing, cos tis difficult,

incrediBILL




msg:4452727
 11:26 pm on May 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Typical Microsoft.

I've been watching them do this for years. They throw a product out there to compete like MSN and it didn't cut it. But what MS has on their side is lots of money and lots of time. So they just keep working on it, chipping away little by little and Bing is the current incarnation chipping away at Google.

This is a very good thing IMO because when Bing starts closing in on 50% market share, it will probably happen at 40%, I'm thinking Google will have a massive shake up and there will be a complete reversal in how they treat webmasters. If it doesn't happen, then we'll add a footnote to Wikipedia about how arrogance of the PhD was their G's ultimate downfall. :)

Yahoo's Inktomi and Ask Jeeves have already become the 2 biggest casualties of this war so far so Bing better do a good job going after the top dog.

I'm a firm believer that their Facebook and Twitter strategies that are currently evolving are going to seal the deal and make it a real 2 pony race.

Swanny007




msg:4452801
 5:52 am on May 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I'm glad to be part of the Bing crowd now. I use the goog maybe 2% of the time for searches now. It's harder for them to track my every search that way :-)

mcneely




msg:4452807
 7:02 am on May 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Bing sort of surprized me the other day in that I had to find a location via an address .. Google didn't show it or couldn't find it, but Bing did straight away .. showed the actual street (a short dead end street) and was spot on with an arrow to it ..

Scary indeed when I think about it .. Bing's got my business in the maps now.

They could work a bit on their translation service and their spell check tho' ..

I do indeed also like the newer cleaner search results at Bing ..

I still use Google .. just less than before it seems.

as an aside .. I've actually started to branch out a bit with my search. I've been using the Duck and Blekko too for a while now.

matrix_jan




msg:4452808
 7:14 am on May 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Take out the percentage that belongs to Facebook search and you'll get less than 10%.

zeus




msg:4452878
 2:12 pm on May 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

What I miss is is when I type bing.com, i get international/USA results and do not have to change country every time, if I want a results from somewhere els i would then type bing.es, like with google

7_Driver




msg:4453297
 2:48 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

I don't think there will be many people here shedding tears over Google's declining market share - they've made a lot of enemies over the past couple of years.

All I need now is for the UK to wake up and follow suit. Google currently at 91.5% share here. I'm doing my bit by telling everyone how much better Bing is these days.

"Google? are you still using that?"

Looking forward to the day I can finally add

User-agent: googlebot
Disallow: *

to my robots.txt. That day's a good way off yet - but hopefully getting closer...

frontpage




msg:4453367
 4:38 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

Bing can thank Facebook which uses Bing Search for all the new users.

londrum




msg:4453396
 5:40 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

is Bing going to be any better for webmasters, though? they do a few things right now that worry me a bit, and makes me think they will just end up like google, leaching off us webmasters.

take their image search. everyone complained when google started putting an extra gate between the image thumbnail and our sites. bing has implemented a similar gate. its impossible to go in one click from the thumbnail to our sites. you have to go via another Bing page first. they just want to use our images to keep traffic on their site -- just like google.

the worst example for me, is what they are doing for tourist attractions. a lot of the big famous attractions now include paid info at the top of the SERPs -- not an advert, but actual info that Bing presumably buys from Frommers, and includes above the official website (madame tussauds is a good example). that is no different from google polluting the first page of the SERPs with all their place pages.

i definitely want Bing to get more search share, but a couple of years from now i'm guessing webmasters will be complaining about their practices too

matrix_jan




msg:4453446
 6:49 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

@mrguy

pulled that number our of your arse

Tst tst tst... What a way of talking... Haven't your mother taught to be polite to strangers, or is that the "Junior Member" writing below my nickname that gives you rights to rank you higher and talk that way?

If you're really interested, I pulled the number out of the websites I monitor. For every 100 visitors from G I see maximum 10 from Bing. And I'm talking about six digit daily UVs. And yes those websites rank high for both.

Now when you're satisfied that the number is not from where you initially though it was, show your level of intelligence and apologies for not respecting the opinion of fellow webmaster.

g1smd




msg:4453465
 7:19 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

Yes, let's keep it civil here. Thanks all. :)

matrix_jan




msg:4453473
 7:35 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

The thing is that we will never know the real numbers. But we can do something like creating a shared spreadsheet in google docs, and putting our monitored traffic shares there. Then we at least will have some kind of idea what a bigger picture looks like.

mrguy




msg:4453487
 7:58 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

Tst tst tst... What a way of talking... Haven't your mother taught to be polite to strangers, or is that the "Junior Member" writing below my nickname that gives you rights to rank you higher and talk that way?

If you're really interested, I pulled the number out of the websites I monitor. For every 100 visitors from G I see maximum 10 from Bing. And I'm talking about six digit daily UVs. And yes those websites rank high for both.

Now when you're satisfied that the number is not from where you initially though it was, show your level of intelligence and apologies for not respecting the opinion of fellow webmaster.


Yes, I should of used better language. You stated that as fact instead of saying, "my own stats show this". .

My stats show nothing close to your stats so saying that those numbers are a set standard across the board is misleading because they are not.

I monitor hundreds of websites and have been at this for many years, many of them I own and my stats are no way near what yours are and in fact, I get very little traffic because of Facebook at the moment.

Of course, once Facebook wakes up and does search correctly, I hope that all changes.

Have a great day.

kellyman




msg:4453506
 8:17 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

It sure wont hurt having the competition, Im in the UK and sadly Giggle still rules the roost and by a long shot, However this is the year i think we will see Bing pull in a large percentage.

Cmon Bing im rooting for the underdog here

aleksl




msg:4453508
 8:26 pm on May 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

Look at that, moderators, Preferred and Senior members are all aligned - Hail Bing, Hell Google :)


Well, if this doesn't ring a bell at Googleplex, I don't know what should. Probably when they start loosing billions in ad money moving to AdCenter. I am doing my part in this since Pande-Penguin.

SEOPTI




msg:4453590
 2:10 am on May 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

@mrguy, LOOOL, you made my day xD

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