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Apple in Talks to Make Bing Primary Search on iPhone
Apple-Google Rivalry Heats Up
martinibuster




msg:4064046
 6:18 am on Jan 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

The talks have been under way for weeks, say the people, who asked not to be named because the details have not been made public.

The discussions reflect the accelerating rivalry between Apple and Google...

"Apple and Google know the other is their primary enemy," says one of the people, who's familiar with Apple's thinking.

Now here is the part that could potentially change the industry in a profound way. Apple is said to be building their own mobile search technology.

...an Apple-Bing deal may prove short-lived. The person familiar with Apple's thinking says Apple has a "skunk works" looking at a search offering of its own... "if Apple does do a search deal with Microsoft, it's about buying itself time... Apple isn't going to outsource the future."

[businessweek.com...]

[edited by: mack at 8:35 am (utc) on Jan. 20, 2010]
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Compworld




msg:4065021
 2:52 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hey, you never know. Maybe a Apple-Microsoft merger of "equals" in order to combat Google. Google, is a behemoth... Much more aggressive the Microsoft in the 90's. Another instance where Ballmer dropped the ball when he had the opportunity to possibly acquire Google in 2000. The man is a walking disaster @ Microsoft.

But hey, he loves Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers...

J_RaD




msg:4065067
 3:48 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

ha, hes never going to live that one down is he.

I wish we had more APPLICATION developers and less WEB developers.

web apps are clunky and slow, why not just internet connected desktop apps just like adcenter desktop and adwords desktop. Anyone that used the adwords desktop knows you can fly thru and get ALOT more done then you can on the web interface.

sgietz




msg:4065147
 6:03 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Well, Apple makes their money with hardware and MS with software. Seems like a perfect marriage to me :)

MicroApple! That would shut the fanboys up.

Compworld




msg:4065160
 6:30 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Nah, AppleSoft. Gill Bates as the chairman. Steve Jobs as the iCEO. Monkey boy as the president. Tim Cook as the COO.

[edited by: Compworld at 6:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 21, 2010]

Hugene




msg:4065185
 7:01 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

are you saying bing is low quality? I swtiched to bing 100% and I don't miss google at all to be honest.

I'll be honest, I haven't explored Bing much. I wouldn't be surprised that it is as good as Google for straight forward searches.

But, G has over 1000 pages of my main site indexed, and Bing has only 300.

I added a new page, and Google has it indexed in less than 20 hours (I think it was about 12). 3 days latter, it's still nowhere to be seen on Bing.

I can only conclude that technically G is much better than M$'s Bing.

swa66




msg:4065240
 8:07 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Microsoft doesn't make hardware except the XBOX so that's a non-starter.

Hmm, I remember keyboards, mice marketed under the MSFT label.

Also the stickers on PCs that state "made for windows <insert version>" that are stuck onto where your wrist needs to go (and hence get placed on the dustbin every time I find them - seems like a good place to put it :) ) means they at least co-brand their stuff onto all buyers of hardware that's well capable of running linux, *BSD, ... yet as a users more often that not you'll be forced to pay the Microsoft tax for an OS you've no use for.

If indications on the apple frequented boards are a global indication: users will not use bing, and apple is going to get the users fully against them if they even try this.

Those of you giving the Redmond behemoth their love now cause of perceived problems with Google: you aint seen nothing yet. Once MSFT feels they own you, you'll pay hundredfold. Just look at the past what they did with e.g. browses: we're still stuck with supporting "that browser" (IE6) thanks to them having so much market share they felt they could outright ignore standards.

TheMadScientist




msg:4065248
 8:40 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

users will not use bing, and apple is going to get the users fully against them if they even try this.

So, what's to stop Apple from using Yahoo! (yes, I know what I just said is Bing by another name, shortly) or their own search engine, with results provided by Bing or Yahoo! ... IMO if Apple wants to move away from Google they will find a way, even if they have to re-brand results from 'some other' search engine...

they felt they could outright ignore standards.

Not only felt they could, did and it doesn't seemed to have been their demise yet.

zeus




msg:4066575
 12:38 am on Jan 24, 2010 (gmt 0)

hmm apple and bing that sounds interesting.

arizonadude




msg:4067018
 1:15 am on Jan 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

users will not use bing, and apple is going to get the users fully against them if they even try this.

Says who?

Most people are not technical and will use whatever comes on the phone. Since Bing provides results just as good as Google, they won't even notice the difference.

Sure the Google diehards will, but a lot more people than the just Google diehards use the Iphone.

I'm no Apple fan, but I am considering getting an Iphone and not even thinking about Googles phone because I hope Google goes belly up.

Brad




msg:4068070
 3:00 pm on Jan 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Back to the original article:

1. Apple uses Bing for awhile while it develops it's own SE;

2. Apple develops it's own SE ...

Making a first class SE is no easy task, so does Apple start from scratch or does it buy an SE? If it buys who is available and can they be made into a first rank SE with time and money: Ask.com or Cuil.com?

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