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It is a Beta version, maybe working only in some countries.
I got bing.conm here in Italy.
The Algo seems to me more "local".
I am curious about the way bing.com find local results: one factor seems IP location...
Would agree that the results look more Yahooish at this point.
Certainly usable, though. Will be interesting to how the marketing department does...
Site "a" has posted a direct link to one of my photos, just a plain old link. Click on it and it would load the image by itself, nothing fancy.
Bing shows my photo but the link takes you to the site "a" page where the direct link to my photo is posted, not directly to my photo.
as for the logo i wouldnt complain : it's an obvious marketing trick, after all it's 100x times better than Google if you really think about it.
google looks good because you've seen millions of times.
but it's crap, and it was called crap by everybody when they launched their site years ago before getting rich.
it's a junk made with times new roman with MSpaint.exe
and now people say it's beatiful.
get a life.
it sucks, and it perfectly represents its own #*$!ty company.
I checked our site and to my amazement, the content that it had scraped was perfect and it had our phone and email address.
Of course will my bad habit of always going to Googelie change to become a Bingster....ummmmm......i doubt it.
I think BING is seriously going to make Google sweat. I can do stuff like USD GBP to get currency rates, get weather reports by typing in "new york weather", get stock quotes etc. Very impressive.
I'm confused -- who are are you calling innovative here? Both Google and Bing do all three of those things.
joined:July 3, 2008
sooner or later all this will be embedded in windozz
and google will have a hard time to cope with it.
That was Microsoft's strategy for the original MSN, which was integrated with Windows 95. The MSN online service even looked like Windows 95, with Win95 icons and folders. Unfortunately for Microsoft (and for people like me, who were on the MSN payroll), knocking AOL off its perch wasn't as simple as building MSN into the operating system.
[edited by: MLHmptn at 5:39 am (utc) on June 2, 2009]
I always keep an open mind, but I was very biased against MSFT coming out with a good search due to how crappy MSN and Live.com are. Bing results seems pretty good, the homepage with the new image and daily info is kinda cool- and traffic to client sites from Bing is about double of what MSN / Live was after only a couple of days!
How this continues to get better... also, why Bing? Why not revamp Live.com? Windows Live coming out soon? With Windows 7?
As far as search share goes, Bing gets even less than Yahoo on my sites - 2.98% to be precise. It's early days though.
As far as SERPS go, it still returns the same old rubbish and corporate sites as Live did. Nothing has changed.
Good results -- sending me double the traffic Live did, though as GA doesn't tag it as a search engine yet, I can't see the keywords people are using.
It is too early to judge, but with a site like mine (a niche encyclopaedia type site) a lot of people will just read the summary on Bing and not click through to my site.
Given that Google has been sued (by news sites) for the tiny snippets it uses, how is MS able to get away with copying significant chunks of each page, and replaying whole videos?
joined:Mar 8, 2002
When I clicked on the Country link at the top right and changed the selected country to US or UK am getting the same results as that using the US or UK IP respectively. So I hope using proxy is not required to see other country results.
Ha! I thought I had just found a way to get to the US results without a proxy from outside the states: [bing.com...] but it looks like the results are the same.... Infact, there must have been a change overnight, because now I don't seem to need a proxy.
Some folks say same results as Live, some say same results as G... Which is it?
We should remember that this is has gone live worldwide it seems, but that doesn't mean that every country is up to speed or has the same soppistication in results. As Webmasterworld is such an international community, we are seeing quite a variety of different results here. I wouldn't be surprised if there is also some difference between me in Bedford and my friends in Edinburgh.
[edited by: Receptional at 8:07 am (utc) on June 2, 2009]
"Displaying this page may force you to leave Bing Images. Opening the page in a new window will prevent this"
That's Cold... From What I remember I paid for the SLR Camera, Product, Photoshop and spent time perfecting the shot. I am not sure it is Bing Images. MS Lets call the things the way the should be called.
Other that that looks spiffy.
Unfortunately, where we dominate google for a wide selection of high-conversion mid-tail terms, we're below the fold or even off page 1 on pretty much everything.
I'm also seeing the same domain taking multiple positions on page 1, which I'm not sure I like,
What does this do well the parents with safe search or filters now will have to add Bing a a site that can't be visited.
Not a real smart move as now millions will now block Bing I know I would if I had younger kids, what were they thinking.
I bing my WebmasterWorld alias, "httpwebwitch", and ... very prominently in the results I see a photo of Bob Denver (aka "Gilligan") attributed to WebmasterWorld.com. Hilarious!
And... amazing how many image searches for innocent keywords show results of young women showing off their bounty. Lots NSFW here.
So, whereas I am pleased I am getting better SERP, it is not deserved, and I believe that users will still be getting better overall results from Google, because of Google's technological advantage, which I do not think MS can overcome.
However, MS seems to be emphasizing particular vertical markets on its press tour, and I am guessing that MS, will attempt to slice out particular vertical markets, and increase its search engine revenue by a divide and conquer approach as opposed to beating Google in a war of generalized search engines.
Bing also seems to factor in headers. For example if you search for a keyword, the <title></title> keywords count, whreas with Google it is more focused on "body page content"
I don't think it is a matter of stealing algos. I think, it is the data warehouse of information, that is driving Google, that makes the big difference. At one time, Google has pretty simplistic info, regarding "links" between sites. They differentiated their SE by using links to vote on sites. However, now, they are far, far, far more sophisticated than that, since they can tap into their vast warehouse of info, derived from their webmaster products, the most important one being Analytics. How, is MS, going to harvest equivalent info? I don't see how they can do it. If they cannot, then they cannot achieve comparable search results - and more importantly, they cannot place ads as well as Google can.
So, instead, it seems like, MS is concentrating on some verticals with potentially strong ad revenue. It probably will not work, since it requires a major overhaul in user behavior, but it may do enough to slow Google down, until some technological angle can be worked out, that will not rely so heavily on Web traffic input, into the algos.
I don't think it is a matter of stealing algos. I think, it is the data warehouse of information, that is driving Google, that makes the big difference.
Which is why there is no competition for Google in the near future. They've established themselves as the Authority in Search. Not only that, they've become a sub-conscious Brand in the process.
Let's face it, Google is the Internet. Every other search engine is 2nd or 3rd or 4th tier and always will be. Even if Binghoo were to join forces, they would still be a 2nd tier SE. If you were to run one of me Peer's Quality Score on Google vs Yahoo! vs Bing vs Ask, you'd see a spread between 1 and 2 that at this point cannot be touched. Even if the 9 SEs (2nd, 3rd, 4th tier) below were to combine, they still couldn't touch Google, not even close. It's a done deal. Google is the Internet.
So, where does that leave us? Search mashups. Local focus. Advanced features. Wow UIs. Social Media. There is still plenty of room for growth and micro-levels are the in-thing. I believe the future lies at the local levels. The Internet is too big for any one resource. Google may become the primary API that the others use in the future. No other commercial entity has the type of computing and brain power that Google have. Why even try to compete?
If Google have their way, they'll have a Data Center on the Moon before you know it. Maybe even Mars. :)
I like Bing! Even though it has some faults, it is a solid contender in the 2nd Tier Search category. Yahoo! and Ask may want to be concerned with their market shares. While Google is taking 1% here and there, the others are battling it out for the leftovers. Every .01% counts at this point to establish a solid 2nd tier position. Bada Bing, Bada Boom!
Hopefully, there is a market for vertical search engines (e.g. Kayak). I have a terrific domain that is begging for one or more great vertical search engines. If anyone knows where people discuss research projects on search engines, please let me know, because I am hunting for development projects to partner with.