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Live.com omitting my page from US searchers

 5:21 am on Feb 27, 2008 (gmt 0)


Iíve just been doing a little SERPís research on LS, when Iím searching from my ip address Iím seeing some of my pages rank really well for some competitive search terms, but when changing ip addresses to an IP located in the US the page that was ranked has completely disappear, it hasnít dropped it looks like its been removed from the serpís completely I eventually find another page of my website that has the search term within the pages content ranking in the 200+.
As a coincidence on the same search term the results shown are 1-9 rather than 1-10 and Iím wondering if this might be glitch on the SERPís page or have I been removed for this search term, my page thatís disappear is index and appears in both a site: search and the url only search so Iíve not been removed from the index.

Cache date of the page is a little older than I would have expected 8th of Feb. but viewing other pages that still rank in both ip ranges Iíve got older cached pages ranking in competitive terms.

Can any one shed any more light on this?




 2:31 pm on Feb 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hiya Vimes,

[SIDEBAR]... all these TLAs... for me "LS" stands for "LookSmart"... but I'm assuming we've changed that to Live Search along the line. Maybe they'll find a cooler brand name oneday. (I hear people say "MSN" alot).[/SIDEBAR]


AFAIK Live's Geographical targeting is quite different to Google's. There are four factors that I believe affect the serps based on location. They are:

1. They IP location of the user (big influence)
2. The IP location of the Web server (less influence)
3. The TLD coultry domain of the website (not thought much about this influence... presumably significant)
4. The user query (Either VERY important or nil importance)

So... if a person in Australia types in "News in London" then UK sites are more likely to be in his results for him than if he types in "lemon trees" which have no implication of a region in the query.

So you can try to move the server to US hosting if that's your prime market.


 3:16 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi Receptional,
(thanks and noted)

So... if a person in Australia types in "News in London" then UK sites are more likely to be in his results for him than if he types in "lemon trees" which have no implication of a region in the query.

Exactly,, from the US ip range the result has been physically removed, i would have thought that as Iím hosted in the region that I would be fine, why show a website in the US talking about a product thatís 1000ís of miles away and remove a page from the SERPís thatís hosted in the area of the search term (outside of the US)

Its not happening on all searches as on other search terms (again outside of the US) my pages are ranking where they have always been.

I still see the same bug happening on the Web results 1-9 of 23,300,000
And my page appears to be the one that disappear from the 10 results that should be shown.
I hope that this is just it, if I donít reappear when the Web results show the correct 10 results Iíll look in to it further.



 12:45 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's obviously hard to duplicate with the TOS at Webmasterworld, but my guess is that what you call a bug, the live team call a feature :)

I'll try to point a person from MS here to see if they can shed light.

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