Msg#: 3488425 posted 3:45 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)
I think Live is a decent search engine these days for many noncommercial searches. Anything even remotely commercial, though, is dominated by sites that use paid links.
Sites that employ counters do very well. These sites employ a system of giving away free counters to unsuspecting webmasters (the counters contain an embedded link back to the target site.) Google seems to be better at adjusting for paid links.