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What happened to MSNDude!?!

 3:33 am on Jan 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Okay, today marks the date that MSNDude has gone missing for exactly 43 days now [webmasterworld.com]. That seems like an awful long time for anyone to go missing. Originally, I thought he was on vacation. Then I suspected foul play (he was fired).

There are rumors that he was on a rotational assignment and he was promoted. Since no one’s saying anything, I’d like to speculate on what’s happened to him.

If you follow this forum, you’ll note that I whine quite a bit about MSN ignoring my website. In fact, this month, MSN accounts for exactly 0.5% of all my traffic. I noticed a couple of days ago that the MSNbot was spidering my site quite heavily, so here is my theory on MSNDude’s disappearance:

It’s pretty easy to identify some pretty significant problems with Live.com. My guess is that MSNDude will not reappear until we see a major shift in the MSN algorithm – which will happen very shortly.



 1:21 pm on Jan 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was a bit concerned so I thought I'd go and check for you.

The current MSNDude is still at Microsoft but has changed roles and is now a bigwig engineer in the Natural Language group. Congratulations on the promotion!

However - MSNDude as a Microsoft voice is set to reappear soon I am led to believe.


 2:58 pm on Jan 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

"However - MSNDude as a Microsoft voice is set to reappear soon I am led to believe."

Good to hear, of all the search engine peeps I felt MSNDude was the most helpful and was willing to give as well as take advice/info


 9:36 pm on Jan 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

My understanding of MSN switch to Live is related to the new operating system about to be released.

I don't know if the timing is the same worldwide but in the UK, Vista is set to be launched at the end of January.
My guess is all hands will be on the pumps this month to ensure, everything is as it should be (or as near possible) for the launch date. A new operating system with a poor search facility will do nothing to help intial sales and reviews.

So I am expecting big changes this month and hoping all the preliminary work is nearly finished.

I would also guess that MSNDude or LiveDude as he may now want to be called, would make an appearance from then. After all, why give advice on MSN when it delivers different results to Live and Live is the future.


 11:19 pm on Jan 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think MSNdude and MSN have been collecting the data, input from users and applying them overtime to the Serp's. While there are still massive problems in terms of the MSN bot and blog sites, there has been some signifcant gains that I see for many genres that I watch. This isn't to say they are great, but are much improved over what I seen in the last quarter of 2006.

He will be back with more questions and collecting comments soon I am sure :)


 3:19 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

I like MSN, in fact I even own Microsoft stock. But as a legitimate website publisher I have to say that Live.com is in a distant forth place right now.

I agree with the comment about Blog spam - they did a good job eliminating it where I'm looking. But the fact that my site does not rank well for its own unique name is a problem. And the fact that it does rank well outside of the US for US-related terms is pitiful.

I know it's unscientific, but I'm always trying to see if MSN is "getting it." I tried a complex query the other day (seven words) and Google gave me good results. Ask.com was spot on. MSN wasn't even close (they sent me to shopping sites when the query was seeking information). Like I said, I hope the silence is a good sign.


 5:50 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

hehe maybe they will fill the role with one of the positions being filled in this list (scroll down to where MSN starts...) [sempo.org...]


 7:07 am on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Rest assured, MSNDude is, and will continue be around -- though I should say that I am the 'new' MSNDude.

We do seriously appreciate and consider all the feedback we get (both here and elsewhere). Sorry for the slower response time in getting back to posts and feedback, but we do look into and investigate all of it. Keep it coming!


 12:02 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Welcome to the forum new msndude!


 12:16 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Welcome msndude v2!

I think MSN isn't too bad, however needs traffic MSN should maybe buy some high traffic websites and push everyone to start using live.com and also it needs brand building.. badly?

Enjoy your stay!


 3:53 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi MSNdude, great to have you around, although I must warn you, there are a few of us not particuarly impressed with MSN/Live at the moment.

I am one of those who has had his site totally delisted and as it was part of my income, pretty confused of why it has not come back.
Mine and I think others, most popular theory is having d301s or rewrites or redirects done.

I my case it was to take non wwws to www and index pages to wwws, so there was not duplicate issues, rather than to a differnt site.

Not long after this I started losing page after page until it was all gone. I am guessing the real issue is that MSN is not listing new sites until Live is fully functional.

Can you confirm that this is the case. I know I am not spamming, I do well in Yahoo and inporving in Google, but it would be nice to know if I am doing something wrong in MSNs eyes. All my other sites are ok, except very slow updates.

If I know it is a D301 or rewrite issue (new sites or pages not being relisted). then I know not to change anything and just wait.

Can you help MSNDude?




 7:08 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

soooo ... msndude2.0?


 7:29 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

though I should say that I am the 'new' MSNDude

You have some big shoes to fill :) Glad we have an MSNDude again!



 8:35 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

"soooo ... msndude2.0? "

My theory is that the log-on information didn't get passed on :)



 10:03 pm on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Actually he is at least MSNdude 3.0

We have to be sure we don't 301 MSNdude 3.0 or he will display an error message and be gone for good...



 11:13 pm on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm waiting for MSNdude v3.0 SP1...



 3:01 am on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

My site has been banned 2 months back unfairly , i have never participated in link exchanges , affiliates etc etc .. I sent a email to webspam@msn.com more than 1 month back and i am still waiting for a reply .



 12:29 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Welcome 'new' msndude. We hope that you will contribute to the forum and take on board issues that webmasters have.

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