There has been movement since October 15 [webmasterworld.com].
Yeah, I'm definitely seeing movement...
i just hope we will soon get the results as on the foreign versions of MSN so I dont see a lot of blogs/websites with only a single page which have anything to do with the search topic.
Our sites was totally hammered on 22.oct by MSN. I don't know why.
The MSNbot indexed like crazy last week.. our sites get better ranking and after 1 day they was totally hammered out of MSN.
Each site has 10-40 pages... managed with CMS, no link farms, no URLs with dup.cont., no keyword density spam, no meta spam, no black hat SEO.
We got avg. 120.000/month unique vis. from MSN ... now my prediction is avg.5000 after this downfall!
I emailed to webspam@.... several times before .. got no response.
>>I emailed to webspam@.... several times before .. got no response.
I emailed MSN because my website wasn't showing up for my own domain name until page 4. I got a response back saying basically it's a ranking problem not a penalty.
I sent the email on Sunday around 10:00 pm and got a response on Monday morning around 11:00 am - which would be 8:00 am out there in Microsoft land. Not sure why you're not getting back a quick response like I did.
I wrote to msn about one of my site that was blacklisted, it took them a month to write back. But they did acknowledge is was a mistake and told be that it would be back in there index.
At which point it took another month before it was fully indexed and ranking.
I am seeing huge movement in last few days here - major shifting and its all over the place. up one day, bottom the next - i monitor my competition as well - same goes for them. Its starting to p' me off now ;-)
however, thank GOD (thats right I said GOD) that i dont depend on MSN
Ok im gonna go get a googleburger now
Today it seems like MSN totally dropped the homepage of one of our sites!
Too bad cause on this site I finally had the first page on all 3 GG, Y! and MSN for the first time, only MSN was missing.
What the heck is wrong with these guys, I can't find the problem, but it seems that the same thing happened to a some other sites as well?
Anybody else not seing their homepage anymore on MSN?
Question to MSN: Can you just make it right, please, I hate to rely solely on GG :)
After reading your post I just checked. We don't show up in the top 120 for our own site name. We used to be around #30 (after being #1 for quite some time). This makes sense to me since we've had 2 referrals (<-- not a typo) in the past four days.
We're are being beaten out by sites referencing our site and since we are in DMoz this includes a lot of directories.
I'm told by MS this is merely a ranking problem - not a penalty. And while I do take some comfort that MS is not penalizing my site I would like to eventually get some traffic from their search engine.
I lost a number 2 ranking for one of my main sites on MSN/Live this weekend as well. It was a popular search phrase and did well. I can only hope that it comes back soon.
B*Spot spam (or should I say 'junk') becoming more and more rampant, after such great improvements over the summer.
When you look at all the results - also smaller terms - MSN definetly improved. I am seeing less spam day by day.
>>When you look at all the results - also smaller terms - MSN definetly improved. I am seeing less spam day by day.
That must depend on the sector, I just tested what I would think is a very popular search term, Yahoo, Google and Ask all got it right, but for MSN:
#1 - theterm.blogspot.tld (then on with a redirect)
#2 - theterm.nn.blogspot.tld (then a 404)
#3 - the_term.blogspot.tld (redirecting to the same as #1)
#4 - thetermcomz.blogspot.tld (redirecting to the same as #1)
#5 - thetermklnewr.blogspot.tld (redirecting to MFA site)
#6 - theterm5.blogspot.tld (pretty much an empty page - what a waste)
#7 - potential real result (albeit not a good one)
#8 - the-term-nn.blogspot.tld (redirecting to the same site as #5)
#9 - A result you'll find on G, Y! and Ask
#10 - theterm-1.blogspot.tld (redirecting to the same site as #1)
These result speak for themselves.
I hear you BillyS -
For me now, EVEN SCRAPPERS rank before me on my own UNIQUE domain name! wowwowowo!
Not only my homepage is gone MIA but when I query on site: I find all the most meanningless pages coming first.
Pages with updated content (or simply ...content, which on my site is unique) are nowhere to be seen.
Note that this site is doing well on Yahoo and Google. I don't use any unethical stuff, pure real popularity + unique content....What are these guys doing?
It's not often when I am upset, and I used to support MSN but that's too ridiculous, if windows Vista is as logical and efficient as MSN search we are all good to go with linux
just a quick not to tell that I did more checking and I've found a BUNCH of sites with unique domain names (I mean U-N-I-Q-U-E) for which the hompage seems totally lost be MSN search.
I thought that MSN was fighting spam, then please FIGHT spam and do the simple thing that consists in NOT LOOSING single damn homepage.
Two of my sites are now affected, and I find this pretty ridiculous, we don't spam (on a market where others spam a lot), we have natural popularity (2k to 4k backlinks) , the HTML is pretty close the W3C standards and yet homepages diseapear!
Even Yahoo got it right this time!