MSN no longer sends referrer info, so you're probably still getting the same traffic; but can no longer tell if its from MSN.
Hopefully msndude can comment on whether this was done on purpose, since a lot of webmasters are unhappy with this.
Thanks for that Praxus - I couldn't understand what was going on - seemingly the same traffic, and my site ranks for the same terms - but apparently no hits any longer from MSN. It was as though suddenly everyone used Google.
I was wondering the same thing. I JUST saw this happening. We see the same thing. But, funny thing is we see more from cc.msnscache.com and now see only some from search.msn.com so something definitely different.
Getting more traffic than ever before. I never see their spider so I haven't a clue how I am getting indexed.
btw- does anyone have knowledge how to get a site into their "new" local engine? I understand Localeze is one way but that has never been confirmed.
My ranking is unchanged since move to Live but conversion has tanked.
It made my heart jump a bit when I saw my MSN hits go from 435 to 45. I went and checked my keywords and they were all there.
People don't like change once they get used to something. Not anything drastic, anyway.
as shown in another topic, they are aware and are working on it.
I just checked my referer logs and am already starting to see a couple of strings every now and then from msn or live (about 1 in 15)
Technical aspects of why this is happening are on
This is more than just referral strings... my traffic is nearly gone in Live... and so are the SERPs
Why on earth would they stop sending referer information? Are they hiding something?
--- Why on earth would they stop sending referer information? Are they hiding something?
Yeah.. hiding the fact they continue to loose browser market share to firefox and safari.
Still NO referer string a week later?
How long does it take to fix? Is it going through layers of management for approval?
Not surprised there's nothing after a week. They have to pinpoint the problem, then develop a solution, then test it extensively. That doesn't even take into account the various levels of approvals and other red tape that comes with anything done in a large corporation.
Still it would be great to get an update on what happening...
I can see my SERP moving up in MSN and traffic dropping to 50% this month, also drop in google & Yahoo traffic by 20% even after SERP moving upwards in both, people staying longer on the web pages, conversions more.
But does someone know why there is a drop in all SE's
Just to repeat my post from the lost referrer thread - I am now tracking MSN traffic again so looks like the fix has been deployed.