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Has the merge happened yet?
thecleaner

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 2:52 pm on Aug 29, 2010 (gmt 0)

Can I just open an msn account now and expect yahoo traffic?

 

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 6:00 pm on Aug 29, 2010 (gmt 0)

yahoo is now showing bing results in organic serps, but ppc switch hasn't happened yet.

thecleaner

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 3:46 am on Aug 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

It doesnt look like it. When I compare the cpc ads for bing under keyword A. then look at ysm search results for the same keyword I see vast differences.

Whats up with that?

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 12:29 pm on Aug 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

like i said, the PPC / CPC hasn't switched over yet, but the organic results have.

thecleaner

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 4:27 pm on Aug 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

When is cpc going to switch?

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 1:43 pm on Aug 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

on 8/17/2010, they said...

Testing of paid search account transitions has begun
[ysmblog.com...]

this blog entry of theirs doesn't give a specific date, and also mentions that if they hit a slowdown, they could decide then to delay it to after q4.

so, nobody knows yet - but it's coming.

Channel01

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 3:26 pm on Aug 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

October is the full transition. They're running tests in PPC now so you'll see your Bing ads on Yahoo at times.

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 5:06 pm on Aug 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

I logged into yahoo today and got prompted to start my transition. I did, now I wish I didn't.

i have an adcenter account and yahoo account, obivously they are pretty much almost exactly alike...now my adcenter account looks like an explosion of dupilicated campaigns and i can't make heads or tails of anything anymore.

It almost feels as if I should delete everything and start over

what a disaster.

rustybrick

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 7:35 pm on Aug 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

[yadvertisingblog.com...]

Channel01

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 10:40 pm on Aug 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

Lots of confusion on this one. It should be very simple for advertisers who merely want to proceed with their existing adCenter accounts. Not surprisingly, however, Yahoo/MSN is making this more difficult than it needs to be.

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 1:08 pm on Sep 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

their notice said:
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You can create a new adCenter account, or indicate that you have an existing adCenter account that you'll continue to use.
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then you login and there's only one choice, transition.

more yahoo BS.

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 2:47 pm on Sep 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

^ im still unclear on this, do i keep using my yahoo account? it is still showing traffic..... ?


your only choice is not transition they just make you think that is your only choice, just click the tabs up top and skip around it.

motwguy

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 6:50 pm on Sep 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

For me, this happened yesterday. As I logged-in to Yahoo marketing there was a notice and a new transition tab. On most of my client's there was also a large button that walks you through a wizard to transition the account.

I *expected* a second Yahoo campaign to appear in adCenter, what I got was a duplicate set of ad groups rolled in with the first.

At the end of the process was a note, to continue to operate my campaigns on Yahoo, until I got an email notice that the import was completed (I had one this morning)

I have asked, but I still don't know if there will be any separate tracking (of Yahoo and Bing). They said there would only be one bid price, but it appears that is also translating to only one campaign.

Looks like the transition process assumes you didn't already have campaigns running on Bing. It now appears I need to delete all the duplicate campaigns out of AdCenter.

I agree with others here, it should have been very simple for advertisers who merely want to proceed with their existing adCenter accounts.

At the very least a note in the AdCenter account saying "Your ads are now running on Yahoo" would be nice. It is really not clear.

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 10:21 pm on Sep 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

I *expected* a second Yahoo campaign to appear in adCenter, what I got was a duplicate set of ad groups rolled in with the first.


exactly what I expected, and exactly what I got as well... i've paused all the dup campaigns till I can phone MS and figure out what exactly the deal is.

motwguy

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 9:12 pm on Sep 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Ok I have seen some additional problems.
1) A number keywords were added as "#NAME" (now deleted)
2) Ad groups with slightly different names were just added as additional ad groups
3) Ad-groups with the same name were merged (The duplicate Keywords were skipped - yeah), but identical ads from yahoo added, doubling the number of ads (now deleted).

shdsofblu

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 3:53 pm on Sep 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Okay...so what I gather from this thread is if my campaigns in Bing and Yahoo are exactly the same, I should not follow the transition instructions at this time. Will my Bing ads automatically show up in yahoo if I do nothing? Or will they continue to display only in Bing?

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 1:08 am on Sep 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

^ yep you are correct, it seems with yahoo says hey guys adcenter is fueling everything you can count on your adcenter fueling everything.

rignt now they are still both seperate.

but yea if you are like most of us and your adcenter and yahoo are mirror images. chillllllllllll save yourself some stress and cursing. :-P

PayMePerClick

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 3:48 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

I think you still need to do first part of the transition in which you assign your accounts from Yahoo to their respective accounts in MSN. This way they will transfer your dollars over, and that is it. Otherwise you'll have money in limbo.

motwguy

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 5:14 pm on Oct 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have linked several of my customers accounts, but one account didn't have the transition button, instead having a notice to contact my rep or support. This account had a balance in the area of $5,000, so I was eager to ensure that balance transferred.

After numerous attempts, I finally got an answer yesterday from a Yahoo rep that while they had planned to transfer the balances, for legal reasons they will not be transferred, but instead will be credited back to credit cards, or where the card had expired a check mailed.

Tropical Island

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Msg#: 4193736 posted 5:38 pm on Oct 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

I just stopped funding my Yahoo US account & didn't transition.

My MSN account is continuing as normal.

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