Sgt_Kickaxe
msg:4219065 | 1:47 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
As the little red riding hood saga goes...
Little red riding hood: "Why Microsoft, what a mighty online presence you're offering".
Microsoft: "Thank you, all the better to watch you with my dear".
of course I prefer my valuable reports and data offline, in the privacy of my own home and office, so take that with a grain of salt.
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bill
msg:4219070 | 2:14 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I believe your documents and data could be offline with this. It's the software that is being hosted. (Exchange would be the exception here.)
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dvduval
msg:4219072 | 2:35 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
If it is free like Gmail and Google Docs, then great. If not, then I'll have no reason to switch.
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J_RaD
msg:4219093 | 4:06 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
how does this differ from what they are already doing with office live or whatever its called?
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Robert Charlton
msg:4219113 | 5:14 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| how does this differ from what they are already doing with office live or whatever its called? |
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Live must be dead. Office 365 is probably positioned in between Office Live and Office 365-24/7.
Microsoft Office 365 Blog
Hello Office 365 [community.office365.com]
| It’s a game changer for Microsoft, and it’s going to be a game changer for businesses of all sizes, government agencies and even for education. Announced just today, Office 365 is the next step in the future of productivity. Is this what’s next for BPOS? Yes. Is this what’s next for Office Live Small Business? Yes. Is this what’s next for Live@edu? Yes. Will Office desktop software be available as part of a cloud service? Yes. Is this productivity in the cloud? Yes. And, it’s even more than that. It’s the best of everything Microsoft knows about business productivity in one service. |
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From the announcement... [microsoft.com...]
| ...for small businesses... ...$6 or 5.25 euros per user, per month |
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More per user per month for large businesses and organizations. It does everything except make lunch.
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aspdaddy
msg:4219129 | 5:49 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
This is already available via partners . Its a good extension of hosted Exchange, Sharepoint & CRM that have been available for awhile.
Its not free but then if you have a lot of users, neither are the licensing , server and maintenance costs of running office business systems.
I always advice clients from a finance perspective when looking at cloud vs onsite: high investment and small operating cost (if you have good IT skills available) vs regular fixed operating cost
$6 per month ? Its getting competitive which is good. Google Apps Premium,Rack space and M$ are the main players each with different focus
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ByronM
msg:4219222 | 11:56 am on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Live must be dead. Office 365 is probably positioned in between Office Live and Office 365-24/7. |
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Live is hardly dead. THey just finished merging the entire office system together with shared storage within their cloud system and it will be pushed HUGE with integration into Windows Phone & Windows 7
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iThink
msg:4219241 | 12:50 pm on Oct 20, 2010 (gmt 0) |
With the pricing of $6/month a lot of small to medium size businesses are going to have a good look at the offering.
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bill
msg:4219563 | 1:52 am on Oct 21, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I heard this on a podcast, but I haven't seen it in the official MS documents: Office 365 licenses each user to have the product on up to 7 PCs. I'd like to see more specifics on how this license will work, but that sounds pretty attractive compared to current physical software licenses.
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J_RaD
msg:4219945 | 6:44 pm on Oct 21, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Is microsoft hurting its own IT consultants with moves like this?
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werty
msg:4220107 | 2:44 am on Oct 22, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I am just excited to see OneNote listed in the office suite for this. Hopefully we will see a version of it on the mac when this release comes out.
Google Apps is $50 per year/per user, so like $4.17 a month... so this is pretty competitive. If you get offline versions of office products with this, it is a no-brainer for me to switch.
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aspdaddy
msg:4220263 | 11:34 am on Oct 22, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Is microsoft hurting its own IT consultants with moves like this? |
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The same cheese has been moved, Cloud is creating a new type demand for consultancy and services, particularly for SMEs & Micro businesses.
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rise2it
msg:4220967 | 4:11 pm on Oct 23, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Sorry....I'm old fashioned...I want to be in control, especially when it comes to security.
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J_RaD
msg:4221284 | 2:52 pm on Oct 24, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Sorry....I'm old fashioned...I want to be in control, especially when it comes to security.
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that is not old fashioned, that is SMART.
The same cheese has been moved, Cloud is creating a new type demand for consultancy and services, particularly for SMEs & Micro businesses.
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just feels like they are kinda jerking the rug out from under people that have paid good time and money, its not 100% jerked out but it will be if they keep heading down the road.
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aspdaddy
msg:4225809 | 8:02 am on Nov 3, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Why is wanting to be in control SMART ? Do you really believe that your resources / skills are the best avaiable to implement and manage your security policy?
Seriously, the mindset that things are more secure when they are insourced is very old fashioned. We would all be hosting our own web/email servers if that were true.
Cloud services doesent mean lower levels of control anyway, the permissions / sharing on Google Apps and Live Office put you in full control of who can see what.
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PCInk
msg:4225853 | 9:48 am on Nov 3, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I want to be in control too. I don't really want to rely on other companies when I just want to type in a letter.
This was the early news last week:
[bbc.co.uk...]
It turned out approximately 1,000,000 households were left without broadband.
What would happen to them if they were on cloud computing?
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bill
msg:4226933 | 4:04 am on Nov 5, 2010 (gmt 0) |
It turned out approximately 1,000,000 households were left without broadband.
What would happen to them if they were on cloud computing? |
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Apparently they would save their documents locally and then sync them with the cloud when the connection returned. The e-mail would be a difficulty though. Then they would need a backup provider or a smartphone with POP/IMAP access to their accounts.
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aspdaddy
msg:4226980 | 8:09 am on Nov 5, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I have clients work like this already with Google Apps, Google Outlook Sync client, and Offisync for Google Docs. You *NEVER* need POP, it should be banned :) Using a smartphone can be tricky in this scanario as you should not use more than 1 sync client, but its possible.
I think the biggest problem is people dont understand it and therfore dont like it - same issues with social media. The good new is the next gen just accept it as the norm
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