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Microsoft walks away from Yahoo
tntpower




msg:3641182
 12:21 am on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)


SEATTLE Microsoft Corp has withdrawn its offer for Yahoo Inc. and does not plan to go hostile, a person familiar with Microsoft's thinking said Saturday.

[reportonbusiness.com...]

 

Robert Charlton




msg:3641304
 7:20 am on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

The story linked to above has apparently been updated to reflect a more definitive situation....

SEATTLE Microsoft Corp. has withdrawn its $42.3-billion (U.S.) bid to buy Yahoo Inc., scrapping an attempt to snap up the tarnished Internet icon in hopes of toppling online search and advertising leader Google Inc.

The decision to walk away from the deal came Saturday after last-ditch efforts to negotiate a mutually acceptable sale price proved unsuccessful.


Miamacs




msg:3641362
 10:51 am on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

those surprised by this report, raise your hands...

...

MS, Yahoo ( and Google ) should have a workable plan for China - instead of squeezing every last bit of breath out of each other in the US market.

dingloo




msg:3641363
 10:53 am on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I guess this is one of the strategies that many of us thought will be used by Microsoft.

I felt the letter is nicely worded, not just to convey the message to Yahoo's leaders, but also to implicitly address the stockholders of the opportunity lost.

This link on CNN has the full text of this letter:
[money.cnn.com...]

bcc1234




msg:3641393
 12:28 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Among other things, this would consolidate market share with the already-dominant paid search provider in a manner that would reduce competition and choice in the marketplace.

ROFL. Look who is talking.

While this is true, and it's bad when one company controls the market, it makes me laugh that MS of all companies would ever bring this up.

fearlessrick




msg:3641399
 12:37 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Pretty sad. Yahoo really blew it. Microsoft should realign its strategy to acquire competitors and put Yahoo down for good. There are plenty of content people out there and that's all Yahoo is.

drall




msg:3641401
 12:50 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yang and Decker gambled and lost, first 40 bucks a share a year ago, now 33 bucks a share. Should be funny when they are groveling for 5 bucks a share a couple years from now.

Everyone thought this was a done deal, well Yang you gambled with your shareholders money which btw includes me and you lost. Im picking up a very big bottle of rum for monday because I will need to be completely plastered to laugh at our stock cratering like a russian expo jet.

So stupid.

momotan




msg:3641422
 1:40 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

CEO anf Chief Yahoo....got to love that title.

Hobbs




msg:3641423
 1:42 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

That was no gamble, you don't threaten a poison pill to raise your worth, it was plain old deal sabotage.

drall




msg:3641435
 2:09 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

The posion pill threat of Google was made actually to raise the cash offers worth and to force MS to pursue Yahoo through a higher cash offer and not a proxy battle. This is the reason Yang and Co flew to Seattle on Saturday to meet with Mr.Ballmer personally.

Yang was attempting to force MS into the corner of a higher cash bid. Ballmer called, Yahoo folded and lost. Next stop is $5.00 a share in less then 2 years.

Hobbs




msg:3641451
 2:47 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Poison pill is a desperate deal breaker, if used to raise offer that would be extortion, anyway agree that Yahoo is heading for troubled waters, change management and management change, who knows this may result in a search engine that actually works!

kaz




msg:3641453
 2:51 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Ballmer called, Yahoo folded and lost

You may want to check with how Ballmer is doing against Google a year from now before deciding who really lost.

Chairs are probably flying, again.

WOOT!

trungngo




msg:3641469
 3:29 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think Microsoft and Yahoo are very still stupid when they fighting each other. This is a very good scenario of "The Three Kingdom" and the more strategic move is 2 weaker competitors pair up against a strong one. Otherwise, both will be swallow.

Y & MS should work out personal differences and focus on more broader goal. ... and that is Google.

Fight each other and you don't have strength left to fight the real competitor (killer) when it comes.

I think Google are very ready to push All In!

ByronM




msg:3641489
 4:33 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think Google will supernova and collapse on its own, probably before MS does simply because Google has a single product and isn't doing terribly well providing it and merely riding on the fact they're able to squeeze more out of advertisers vs actually create & deliver new products.

Sure, google wants to "index the worlds information" in a way - but mostly they're concerned with monetizing the worlds information at a cost i'm not sure advertisers will forever be willing to spend and publishers will forever accept a pittance for.

potentialgeek




msg:3641518
 5:26 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't think either Yang or Ballmer are very good at negotiating. Yang acted like a geek (yeah, I know, he is one), and Ballmer like a grumpy old inflexible man.

p/g

ziajunu




msg:3641552
 6:58 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I was hoping Microsoft will take Yahoo and realease YPN international which Yahoo wasnt able to do in last several years.

potentialgeek




msg:3641553
 7:09 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang will now go down in history as the obstinate founder who blew a chance to milk the world's richest software company at the peak of its midlife angst."--Brier Dudley [seattletimes.nwsource.com]

I think he was too emotionally attached because he was the founder. It's his baby.

Having said that I'm not yet convinced it's all over. Ballmer made a very quick, neat exit. There was a meeting with Yang, it ended, they departed. He issued a release. Done. But...

There's nothing to stop picking this up (after seeing Yahoo shareholders freak out). It could be more posturing to pressure Yang (esp. after trading on Monday) to reconsider.

JAB Creations




msg:3641562
 7:30 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Losers: People who buy/sell/trade stock, and have no care or clue of why a successful Microsoft buyout of Yahoo would be one of the worst things to happen to the internet.

Winners: Any one who benefits from competition rather then monopolies and market consolidation. This also includes Yahoo with it's refreshed strategies including consolidating all their services.

...it's good to see not all people in the position of power are willing to sellout to greed.

- John

zett




msg:3641566
 7:38 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

YHOO and Yang deserve that their stock tanks Monday morning. Consensus seems to be $24 which would be surprise to me; Yang has proven that he is incapable of seeing the sign of the times, that YHOO is not well equipped for the future, and that MSFT would have been a good partner (not perfect, but good).
I'll laugh all Monday checking YHOO's stock.
(From a Webmaster point of view, though, it's sad. Now the chance for a convincing alternative to GOOG is gone. Sad.)

night707




msg:3641606
 9:01 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Now the chance for a convincing alternative to GOOG is gone. Sad.)

The two are too blind to see how Google attracts customers. But putting these two blind lots together is unlikely to create eyesight for any of them. Not to mention competition for Google :-)

Lets hope for new stuff to challenge Google!

trungngo




msg:3641646
 11:12 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think Y & MS are good companies in the old days. They were the original but the world is changing now and they are to slow to be competitive enough.

Remember that Y was the very first to enter the Paid Search Market. Bought out Overture when Overture was a dominance player. I remembered at that time Overture had 100,000 advertisers nearly double size Google. They controled 75% of the distributed partners in AOL, MSN, ... InfoSpace.

After 2 years Y allow Google to catched up. Totally unacceptable. The rebrand Overture to Y Marketing is very stupid, slowness in rolling out products 5 years in YPN beta (what the heck), and their in ability to keep innovating are good reasons to explain why Yahoo was to buried. (If Y keep talking about innovation, they should have done better.)

MS are not in many way difference. They wasted years and billions in development of search where they could have bought Google, Inktomi or Ask and develop AdCenter from ground up and wasted couple years more. (... not so wise). (They should have bought LookSmart, FindWhat ... Overture). (Totally mis-strategic move with a company that have plenty of capital. Why scramble now to buy Aquantive & Yahoo. (6B+42B) can be more s...p than that.)

If they are walking away now, they are very much close their own exit. (It is a must done deal for both of them.)

because even if these 2 companies combine won't be able to do much for Google. I think as temporary solutions it is ok but in the long run they will slide again.

The more potential players could be FaceBook and new start up. But then it will be millions light years from now.

It is tough to get a real competitor as Google's Size and the one could match its capability. I think it is very much the end of the search game.

BillyS




msg:3641659
 11:50 pm on May 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

This deal may come again someday.

Ballmer was being honest. He offered a fair price for Yahoo.

Yahoo showed that it continues to be a poorly run company. For those that said MS should have offered $40 / share, let's see how the market values it on Monday. My guess it will lose $10 per share.

IanKelley




msg:3641676
 1:41 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

it will lose $10 per share.

And then rebound yet again. While it's true that Yahoo isn't at the top of search, they still have lots of valuable eyeballs using their other services daily. Plenty of potential there.

All this talk of Yahoo being dead seems premature and maybe a bit melodramatic?

Isn't it just vaguely possible that they are not, as posters in this thread seem to feel, the stupidest people on the planet? Worth considering. ;-)

swa66




msg:3641744
 4:15 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

GOOOOOOOD!

Gives us all a bit more time before MSFT gets the cards in place to play their (illegal) game of expand into a monopoly from our exiting monopoly.

Thos etinking GOOG has a monopoly here: yep, probably, but MSFT broke other monopolies before by illegally abusing their other monopoly, they got tried and convicted to pay record breakign fines for doing so.

It's about time the MSFT stockholders take a look at their CEO "monkey boy" and oust him.

YAHOO! is the clear winner (their shareholders think only short term so they just gambled wrong, but they should know MSFT (Ballmer) has a bad track record at closing deals).

Anyway, a good day IMHO.

the_nerd




msg:3641806
 8:03 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

it will lose $10 per share.

good estimate. 15 Euros in Frankfurt (23 US-$)

ronin




msg:3641810
 8:19 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Agree with JAB wholeheartedly.

Yahoo! comes in for a lot of stick because it doesn't have the marketing machine that Google has - but it has made a lot of exceptional contributions to the web (some of them relatively recently) including Y! Answers, YSlow, Y! Mail (personally, I still prefer it to Gmail) etc.

I think we expected greater things from Y! Search a few years back when they bought FAST and Altavista and Overture and these haven't materialised yet. But that doesn't mean that Y! doesn't have something to say as an original ideas engine on the web.

This last episode has shown that Yahoo! values its own originality and independence as well as its share price and it is right to do so. Let's see if not selling out to MS still looks like a mistake 2 years from now when web-based computing holds more sway over OS-based computing than ever and MS (historically not a company with large supplies of originality) is desperately clutching at straws to hold on to its userbase.

zett




msg:3641819
 9:13 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Currently 14.75 Euros in FRA (22.74 USD). I expect the stock to tumble further once the US wakes up. Well done, Jerry, well done.

internetheaven




msg:3641849
 11:01 am on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

While this is true, and it's bad when one company controls the market, it makes me laugh that MS of all companies would ever bring this up.

Not really, if I were Microsoft I'd be complaining a lot too. They get slapped with anti-trust lawsuits all the time but no-one seems to bother about "good-old Google".

trungngo




msg:3641939
 2:19 pm on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Check out MarketWatch News. Stock down 17%
Microsoft kisses off Yahoo [marketwatch.com]

skibum




msg:3641958
 2:38 pm on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Losers: People who buy/sell/trade stock, and have no care or clue of why a successful Microsoft buyout of Yahoo would be one of the worst things to happen to the internet.

Winners: Any one who benefits from competition rather then monopolies and market consolidation. This also includes Yahoo with it's refreshed strategies including consolidating all their services.

...it's good to see not all people in the position of power are willing to sellout to greed.

Agreed 100%

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