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Microsoft Announces 'Albany' (Private Beta) All-In-One Service
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Msg#: 3630060 posted 4:02 pm on Apr 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Group Product Manager Bryson Gordon
"Albany" is the codename for a new all-in-one subscription service of essential software and services consumers told us were most important to them. We've pulled together the productivity tools people need to organize their lives, security to help keep their personal information safe and online services that make it easy for them to keep in touch with friends and family, and folded them all into a single service that also ensures the user's PC is running the latest security and productivity software.

With just a few clicks, "Albany" subscribers will be able install the whole package, which includes Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007, giving them the latest versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote for their personal and school projects; Windows Live OneCare to help keep viruses at bay and their computer fast and healthy; and Windows Live Mail, Messenger and Photo Gallery so they can connect and share with others. Albany also installs the Microsoft Office Live Workspace connector on the Microsoft Office toolbar, so users can save documents to their own dedicated online workspace and invite friends and classmates to collaborate and share.

Additionally, with "Albany" consumers get the latest versions of Microsoft Office Home and Student and Windows Live OneCare as they're released. Combined with ongoing security updates, consumers can have the peace of mind that they have protection from the most recent security threats and that their PC is running at its peak.

Microsoft Announces 'Albany' (Private Beta) All-In-One Service [microsoft.com]

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 11:27 am on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think they're headed in the right direction with this new package. They're licencing this for 3 PCs, which is great for the student/small family market. And they give you the latest versions of their Office products on a subscription basis. I think we'll see more of this sort of licencing from MS in the future.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 1:28 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

This seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to me, students and home users are the ones that do not use the extra features of Office, so they can get away with using OpenOffice (although most that I see are pirated).

What does Office give that OpenOffice does not and why would someone bother renting software when they can have it forever for about 40? Its not like you are paying for a car or something. People who cannot afford 40 will either use a pirate version or they will just use OpenOffice.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 2:00 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

What does Office give that OpenOffice does not

Peace of mind that it will open Office files without problems and that you won't suffer the embarassment of your boss or future employer not being able to open your CV because OpenOffice did not save it well or it does not look good in Word. It's like I can run my car on a mix of diesel with sunflower oil, this will work out cheaper and I kind of know it will work, but I will lose peace of mind so I just refuel using normal diesel - more expensive, but I have more problems in my life to be also worried about these things: it's just not worth it.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 3:27 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Peace of mind that it will open Office files without problems and that you won't suffer the embarassment of your boss or future employer not being able to open your CV because OpenOffice did not save it well or it does not look good in Word. It's like I can run my car on a mix of diesel with sunflower oil, this will work out cheaper and I kind of know it will work, but I will lose peace of mind so I just refuel using normal diesel - more expensive, but I have more problems in my life to be also worried about these things: it's just not worth it.

That sounds like FUD.

OpenOffice can save as PDF files that look good on all systems.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 3:42 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most office work is saved in Word/Excel/PowerPoint formats, not PDF. Can OpenOffice do it perfectly every time? Possibly, I don't know - the point I am making is that I won't take such risk, especially given history of such issues in the past. Is it FUD? No - I am not working for Microsoft, I am just a guy who wants to make sure I can open my Word document or that whoever I send .DOC file can open it. The price of that for me is much higher than price differential between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice. Just like in my example with sunflower oil - I know it works, but I won't be taking a chance with my cars engine to save little bit of money.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 6:47 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most file format problems I have seen recently are different versions of Microsoft Office not being able to read each others files without rendering issues.

How sure are you that your boss or potential employer will be using office 2000 and cannot read your CV that you wrote in Office 2007? Can you point me to the universal Microsoft guarantee? What if your boss or future employer is using a Mac or Linux? Thats why we have standards and why Microsoft always tries to subvert them.

All I can say is you must spend a lot of time looking for new jobs ;) I have never had anyone not able to read a .doc, and if portability is an issue I can just export to PDF without extra software.

This is designed for home and student use, its not designed to be used in an office. It is for writing basic letters and spreadsheets for balancing the books.

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 9:36 pm on Apr 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

"How sure are you that your boss or potential employer will be using office 2000 and cannot read your CV that you wrote in Office 2007? Can you point me to the universal Microsoft guarantee? What if your boss or future employer is using a Mac or Linux?"

That's not Lord Majestic's responsibility. It's mine!

By the way, this download fixes the CV issue: [microsoft.com...]

mikedee

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 5:38 pm on Apr 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

By the way, this download fixes the CV issue

It did not work on my mac :(

You guys sound similar to people who kept trying to justify why they only write websites for IE6 and to hell with anyone else. Look what is happening to them now, I bet they wish they had used more standard tools ;)

I still have no guarantee that all the different .doc formats are compatible across the entire Office range (from 97 up to 2007). We will never get that because the aim is to keep everyone updating and keeping the gravy train running.

Lord Majestic

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 5:49 pm on Apr 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't think Office is that important anymore anyway - the battleground moved on to the Web: I very rarely use Office these days anyway, mostly Excel as an advanced calculator/modelling tool, everything really should be Web available, so I am more concerned about FireFox being good competitor to IE, rather than OpenOffice making a dent in the Office market.

fakedsysadmin

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 7:08 pm on Apr 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

>It did not work on my mac :(

You still want help even after all those nasty anti-Windows Mac ads. Tell Steve Jobs to be nicer and maybe MS will fix your issue!

For now, you could get a Windows machine as the rest of the corporate people. The Windows machines are quite inexpensive now. And with "Albany" on the horizon, even better.

>I don't think Office is that important anymore anyway

Hmmm, that's not what my clients tell me.

Have you made the mistake of not installing PowerPoint in a machine of your corporate client? He-she could be really mean to you for committing such a sacrilege. He-she wants PowerPoint even in their home machines!

Lord Majestic

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Msg#: 3630060 posted 8:55 pm on Apr 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

>I don't think Office is that important anymore anyway

What I meant is that the key battleground for killer applications (which Office was in the past) moved to online space - there is a big shift from old desktop world to more network centric world, sure it does not remove Office or OS from the equation, but the balance is shifting greatly towards online stuff - search engines for example, that's why Microsoft is trying to gain good foothold in that space rather than doing something really exciting in Office - they can't really, personally I find that Office 97 (10 years old now) gives me more than enough stuff, they have not really implemented anything THAT good in Office in the last 10 years.

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