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Microsoft In Open Source Deal

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Msg#: 3532164 posted 6:08 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

The deal signed in the United States by the non-profit Protocol Freedom Information Foundation was focused on helping Samba, a non-profit maker of free, open source server software.

"The agreement allows us to keep Samba up to date with recent changes in Microsoft Windows, and also helps other Free Software projects that need to interoperate with Windows", said Andrew Tridgell, creator of Samba.

Microsoft In Open Source Deal [reuters.com]



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Msg#: 3532164 posted 3:12 pm on Dec 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Despite paying 10,000 euros, samba are not permitted to share any of the information obtained. Sounds like they got the raw end of the deal, yet again. From the EU ruling, it clearly should have been provided without charge, and provided to any software manufacturer, commercial, non-commercial, open source or closed source.


Msg#: 3532164 posted 11:27 pm on Dec 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

The above article quoted by engine and found at [reuters.com...] reads:

"As Samba is not commercial and could not be forced out of the marketplace it was still standing and able to benefit from the ruling."

The key sentence is "As Samba is not commercial..."


Samba becomes commercial when distributed by companies such as Hewlett-Packard, RedHat, IBM, etc.

HP released a product in 2000 called CIFS/9000 based on Samba.

No wonder Gary Campbell from HP wrote a memo in June 2002 titled "Microsoft Patent Cross License - Open Source Software Impact", see [linux.com...] .

HP and Microsoft agreed on a new patent cross license in 2002. However, Campbell wrote "major products are explicitly called out as not protected by the cross license, such as Samba, Wine, KDE, Gnome, Apache, Sendmail, and Linux."

Campbell also wrote: "Microsoft could attack Open Source Software for patent infringements against OEMs, Linux distributors, and least likely open source developers. They are specifically upset about Samba, Apache and Sendmail. We believe Samba is first..."

Again, things change when open source software goes commercial and people begin to make money (profits) out of other people's patents, protocols and intellectual property.


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Msg#: 3532164 posted 12:53 am on Dec 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

MS has agreed to share information with the Samba project, commercial or not - so this makes any comments dating from five years ago irrelevant.

It's good news for interoperability, even if this is on a limited scale. However, the downside is that it helps bolster proprietary protocols over open equivalents. MS gains that advantage at least, which is why it has never seriously threatened Samba in the past.


Msg#: 3532164 posted 6:49 am on Dec 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's quite interesting to notice how different are the opinions of the people involved in both sides of the agreement.

Hence, it's important to have a direct link to the agreement:


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