| 6:47 pm on Jan 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Clever way of saying "It is not ready yet... we just found some bugs... give a few more minutes please..."
| 7:03 pm on Jan 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I just finished my download not 20 minutes ago. I tried a few times this morning before it gave me the option.
Next step burn to DVD :)
| 8:17 pm on Jan 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|The Beta will stop working on August 1, 2009. To continue using your PC, please be prepared to reinstall a prior version of Windows or a subsequent release of Windows 7 before the expiration date. You wonâ€™t be able to upgrade from the Beta to the final retail version of Windows 7. |
I was going to try it until I read this. No thanks Microsoft.
| 8:30 pm on Jan 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I have a different idea for them.
Due to the fact billion of installations use Windows, how about delaying it indefinitely until they get it right and not release it simply to for a number on a quarterly report.
Personally I think XP will be with us for another decade.
I only stopping using Windows 2000 this year.
| 11:03 pm on Jan 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
It's there now...
| 1:37 am on Jan 11, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|Due to the fact billion of installations use Windows, how about delaying it indefinitely until they get it right and not release it simply to for a number on a quarterly report. |
I will go you one better... how about fixing the bugs in the OS they have sold to these billions of people?
(Yes, I know the answer. They can sell a "new" OS, but fixing the other products is just a cost. This is why MS is not on my "most admired" list of companies. And, I know this is the oldest gripe in the world about MS, but why do we keep letting them get away with it?)
| 8:47 am on Jan 11, 2009 (gmt 0)|
MS should just leave WinME ... er ... um ... rather ... Vista the way it is. No sense in tossing it about with good dollars going after bad now, is there? I didn't think so either.
The Vista was needed in order to secure XP's prominent and ever enduring place in history. Just like the WinME was needed to secure Win98 in it's place.
I find it quite interesting really, in that the Vista reminds me of the days when WinME did it's dookie ... sending mates in a half panic back to Win98/98SE.
I too can agree that XP will be the prominent choice for OS for years to come amongst the Windows users, with MS having to extend, and greatly, supporting the product beyond 2015.
Just like with Win98, XP will go out the door kicking and screaming all the way. Out of all of the Windows operating systems, since Windows 1.0, I'll have to say that Win98 and XP were the shining stars.
If Microsoft stays true to form, I wouldn't expect another great OS out of them until right at about Tuesday of 2016.
| 10:09 am on Jan 11, 2009 (gmt 0)|
[url=http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/01/10/here-s-where-we-stand.aspx]Here’s where we stand
|Due to an enormous surge in demand, the download experience was not ideal so we listened and took the necessary steps to ensure a good experience. We have clearly heard that many of you want to check out the Windows 7 Beta and, as a result, we have decided remove the initial 2.5 million limit on the public beta for the next two weeks (thru January 24th). During that time you will have access to the beta even if the download number exceeds the 2.5 million unit limit. |
| 12:07 am on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Been playing with it for the past couple of hours in a VM. It's not ticking me off the way Vista did.
Vista is going to be the OS that time forgot. Windows 7 might get some traction. It's nowhere near the resource hog. If they keep it easy on the system, (the way the beta is), Windows 7 might just become the Windows that Vista should have been.
Still, I'm going to reserve judgement for a while. Horse around with it in a couple of VMs, see how it behaves.
One thing I like off the bat: Easy access to program by program Data Execution Protection.
As for the complaints about it expiring in August:
Whatever. I could care less. It's being released for IT types to test and get used to, and give feedback. It's not being released as a daily driver.
| 3:59 am on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I just finished the install and about an hour and a half screen time with W7 64 bit. I found it to be pretty intuitive coming from XP. The look and feel is a nice upgrade too. It crashed a couple times but seemed to repair itself after the reboots.
I don't know if it is just fast because it was a brand new install with no apps or if it is really that fast, but I was stunned at how much faster it did everything than XP Pro 32 bit on the same computer.
Internet Explorer 64 bit even seemed to be a substantially faster browsing experience that the XP 32 bit browsers that I am accustomed to.
All of this speed was while running on an old IDE hard drive with a small cache. I can't imagine what the experience will be like on a velociraptor or a pair in raid 0.
If this thing is bug free by release time, I would expect it to be a smashing success.
| 9:40 am on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
"Microsoft Windows OS Usage - NT - XP - Vista"
Read "please give me an alternative to Vista!"
| 11:48 am on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
When I click on the "download now" button, after signing up for Win7 beta, the page just reloads, no download of starts. I use Firefox 3 on Ubuntu. Is than download button again "IE only"?
| 2:58 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|When I click on the "download now" button, after signing up for Win7 beta, the page just reloads, no download of starts. I use Firefox 3 on Ubuntu. Is than download button again "IE only"? |
Yah, I had trouble getting it to download using FF in Windows. I assumed it was either adblock or greasemonkey causing the grief. When I finally did get it to download in IE, it forced an activeX "download manager" on me for it to work.
On the plus side, I ended up with a bunch of spare license keys due to MS's inability to make a download cross-browser compatible. Not sure if I'll use them, but it's nice to get something in return for MS's stupidity.
Windows is playing a diminishing role in my life. But, I'll probably keep 1 Win box around for games and odds-and-sodds. If Win7 continues down the path it's on now, I can see Win7 becoming a replacement (for me) for XP.
For now, it'll stay in it's VM sandbox.
Couple of interface annoyances:
It tends to obfuscate the file system, desktop, and quicklaunch. They're all there, just getting them to work the way I'm used to involves flipping more dipswitches than I'd like. It's continuing along a long line of MS and Apple habits of trying to force you to organize your files in certain specific ways.
I like my byzantine, incomprehensible to anyone but me file system.
| 9:54 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
What software do you use your Win7 virtual machine?
| 10:17 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
VMWare Workstation 6.5
Or do you meant what am I using inside the VM?
| 11:30 pm on Jan 12, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Nope, that was the question, thanks for your answer.
I was thinking on doing the same, but using Virtual PC from Microsoft, though, I don't think it will run.... not sure.
| 1:08 am on Jan 13, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I loaded Windows 7 using Windows Virtual PC 2007 sp1 without any problems if you're looking for a platform.
| 2:05 am on Jan 13, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for the clarification! I'm installing it right now.
But I have no idea how Win7 will look with that tiny Video Card emulation that VPC 2007 has.
| 3:29 am on Jan 13, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I can't believe how easy it was. Took just 20 minutes to install!
I don't know if an a real PC would be faster or slower, though.
| 11:06 pm on Jan 13, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|I don't know if an a real PC would be faster or slower, though. |
I don't know about VPC, but OS's install way faster in VMware than on a real machine. Lot's of automated scripts going on, simplified hardware detection....
Already gotten into one argument at work about Win7... I was dumb enough to comment that it looked better than Vista, to which the reply was "A Brick over the head is better than Vista..." Things went downhill from there.
What's surprising is how much damage Vista has done to Microsoft's reputation. Win7 is going to have to be awesome to overcome the bad will.
With Vista, the big winners were Mac OSX, Red Hat (for enterprise customers), and Ubuntu.
And FWIW - My initial impression of Win7 stands. I don't hate it. It annoys me on a similar level to most other OSes out there.
And it looks pretty. Like my mom used to say "If you don't know, then smile. If you can't be intelligent, you can at least be pleasant."