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Vista SP1: Now Available to the Public
via Windows Update
bill




msg:3604861
 3:52 am on Mar 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Vista Upgrades Available for Download [ap.google.com]

SEATTLE (AP) Microsoft Corp. posted a major package of updates and security fixes for its Windows Vista operating system for download starting Tuesday.

People whose PCs run the newest Microsoft operating system can use Microsoft's Windows Update tool or visit its Download Center Web site and download the free Service Pack 1. In some cases, computer users may need to download older updates before they'll be able to install SP1.

Many of the fixes contained in SP1 have already been released as part of regular monthly updates in the year since the operating system went on sale to consumers. Microsoft has said SP1 improves Vista's reliability, security and performance.


 

g1smd




msg:3605840
 10:43 pm on Mar 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am going to wait for a week or two and see how many people report things that are broken before I inflict it on to my stuff.

kaled




msg:3605864
 11:31 pm on Mar 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

My thoughts exactly!

FTFlash




msg:3605926
 12:53 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

wait for a week or two and see how many people report things that are broken

I thought that the Service Pack was supposed to FIX the things that are broken with the OS... right?

It's funny that we all immediately assume the SP will cause more problems than it will fix. I guess it's just what we've come to expect from Microsoft.

g1smd




msg:3605954
 1:47 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's certainly what I have come to expect from Vista.

kaled




msg:3605991
 2:38 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

One reason why Microsoft is so disliked is because they will skimp on a few hundred hours of work and testing resulting in millions of man-hours being wasted by users.

Consider for a moment how much effort has gone into getting layouts to work in IE 6 by tens of thousands of webmasters worldwide. Then consider this, the whole operating system is quirky not just Internet Explorer with the result that millions of man hours are wasted getting code to work. For instance...

Icon handling is a case in point. Within a program, a single icon resource can contain multiple images (different size and color depth) but it's not possible to load a single multi-image object, each image has to be loaded individually if you want to draw the icon at different sizes. But, the really loopy thing is that if you simply load a 32-pixel image and assign it to a window handle (using one particular method only) the 16-pixel image is magically assigned too. In other words, although the API doesn't let you load multiple icon images in a single operation, it actually happens anyway behind the scenes.

I've spent the whole of today getting some advanced css stuff to work in XP/IE6. I switched to Vista/IE7 and found I'll have to spend another hour or so on this tomorrow, although it will now work in IE7 without javascript fudges. Oh yes, it all works fine without any dramas in Firefox and Opera!

Kaled.

[edited by: bill at 4:21 am (utc) on Mar. 20, 2008]
[edit reason] tidying up [/edit]

vincevincevince




msg:3605997
 2:54 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm guessing that we'll be able to get SP1 added to the installation disks for new copies?

As I'm fairly sure that Vista will capture market share over time, I am disappointed that SP2 hasn't introduced simplifications aimed at productivity. Something like an 'NT compatibility mode' to enable commercial users to adopt it.

bill




msg:3606067
 4:47 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I installed Vista's SP1 almost a month ago back in February [webmasterworld.com] and can't say that I've run into any issues at all. In fact, my machine hasn't even been rebooted since then. It seems even more stable than before.

That's not everyone's experience though. There have been some reports of problems with SP1 since its general release. Microsoft has released a list of software that will have problems with SP1: [support.microsoft.com...] It may not be a bad idea to let other people be your guinea pigs to test this package out before you take the plunge.

WebDon




msg:3606123
 6:31 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

We have one system that we did today. So far so good. No apparent problems.

I'm waiting for the weekend to do the other...it was an XP/Vista upgrade and might have other quirks.

TrustNo1




msg:3606145
 7:18 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

SP1 installed great for me. Got almost 20G of space back, increased performance, no problems.

LineOfSight




msg:3606298
 1:07 pm on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've been using a release candidate version for around 3 months and it has improved many areas of the OS

madmatt69




msg:3606399
 3:15 pm on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

Killed my wireless adapter, which worked fine otherwise. Typical!

ByronM




msg:3606461
 4:05 pm on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

Been running it since the RTM was released to testers. Major difference on my PC performance wise - feels snappy again.

johnnie




msg:3606941
 12:41 am on Mar 21, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm just going to wait for XP SP3

BillyS




msg:3607754
 1:41 am on Mar 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

Downloaded it last night. Pretty uneventful.

jimbeetle




msg:3607772
 2:22 am on Mar 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

Installed SP1 a couple of weeks ago. Only problem was it killed the video driver; instead of full Aero now the next whatever step it is down. Intel has updates but Tosiba hasn't caught up as yet. Seems like it's one long waiting game for Vista drivers.

kaled




msg:3608226
 11:36 pm on Mar 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wonder how many bugs will be fixed in IE7, if any.

[gtalbot.org...]

I spent several hours today analyzing bug 41. Eventually I came up up with a javascript fix and graceful failure if javascript is disabled. I think it's time someone started a campaign to persuade MS to ditch Internet Explorer altogether.

If anyone is interested, don't use div {position:fixed; overflow:auto/scroll} in IE7 when any element in the div uses something like {width:xx%} - an unstyled <hr> will have the same effect too.

Kaled.

bill




msg:3608314
 5:39 am on Mar 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

There are several IE fixes listed in SP1, but I don't know that they will specifically address that particular issue. MS does provide some lists of what's included in SP1 here: Windows Vista SP1 Guides for IT Professionals [microsoft.com]

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