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Msg#: 3065196 posted 1:49 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

article [bloomberg.com]
Microsoft Corp. is selling its new Windows Vista operating system for $100 to $399 and will make the program available on Jan. 30, according to Amazon.com Inc.'s Web site.

These are the Vista prices according to Amazon:

Vista Home Basic

  • Home Basic: $199.00
  • Home Basic Upgrade: $99.95
  • Home Basic Upgrade (Additional License Only): $89.95

Vista Home Premium

  • Home Premium: $239.00
  • Home Premium Upgrade: $159.00
  • Home Premium Upgrade (Additional License Only): $143.00

Vista Business

  • Business: $299.00
  • Business Upgrade: $199.00
  • Business Upgrade (Additional License Only): $179.00

Vista Ultimate

  • Ultimate: $399.00
  • Ultimate Upgrade: $259.00
  • Ultimate Upgrade (Additional License Only): $233.00

 

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 2:50 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like about 399 reasons to keep running XP...

[winsupersite.com...]

A long time ago--I mean, like two and a half years ago--I was secreted into a room on the Microsoft campus for my first Longhorn demo. At that time, Longhorn was still the Kitchen Sink (tm) of computing, promising to deliver every single bit of technology you could imagine, all wrapped around a Flash-like UI that was based on Anark technology. It all looked really impressive.

I have yet to see anything like that materialize in an actual Longhorn/Vista build.

Since then, Windows Vista has been defanged somewhat, and while the early Aero Glass demos I saw seemed to raise the OS at least to Mac OS X levels visually, they didn't really go much beyond that. I was told to wait and see, wait and see, and promised that things would get better. Instead, things got much worse. In mid-2004, Microsoft halted Longhorn development, restarted the project using the Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1) code base, and componentized the core of the system before adding back much of the work other teams at the software giant had already completed.


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Msg#: 3065196 posted 3:01 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thank you MSDN Subscription :)

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 4:21 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I, for one, will upgrade. Everytime I upgraded to a new windows I was glad I did. A couple of hundred is nothing given that I use this at least 12 hours a day.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 4:25 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like about 399 reasons to keep running XP

well... technically speaking that would only be 259 reasons for you Brett. ;)

Vista build 5536, that had limited release last Friday, apparently has fixed a majority of bugs and is extremely close to what one would expect from a release candidate for this OS. I'm looking forward to giving it a try if I can get my hands on it.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 4:38 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm buying me a new computer as soon as it comes out..must..have..more...power..

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 5:09 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I, for one, will upgrade.

I will too, but will probably wait about 6 months for Service Pack 1 ;)

herb

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 5:10 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
- 1 GB of system memory.
- Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
   Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
- 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
- DVD-ROM Drive.
- Audio output capability.
- Internet access capability.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 7:10 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have been reading up on the licensing issues quite a lot lately and I think Microsoft have gone out of their way to make things overly complicated. XP was fine you have two choices, Home or Professional. This made it perfectly clear. Now the whole "What version is for me" question is very blurred.

Mack.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 7:38 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Wow - wonder how the OEM bundling will affect PC prices. $259 seems high given that MS is in a battle for control of browser.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 8:10 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Now the whole "What version is for me" question is very blurred.

Check out the article linked in this thread [webmasterworld.com]. It gives a good explanation of the features of the different versions and the thinking behind them. Although all the different versions will cause some confusion it does allow MS to present a lot of possible price-points for the consumers.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 9:00 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Microsoft Corp. is selling its new Windows Vista operating system for $100 to $399 and will make the program available on Jan. 30, according to Amazon.com Inc.'s Web site.

And pigs will fly. Expect at least a few months delay.

Meanwhile I hear you can get Ubuntu Linux for... $0.00!

One thing to note about the different kinds of Vista available. Apparently the basic one won't offer the Aero fancy graphics. So you've got to pay more to get that. A word comes to mind beginning with b that also means fatherless children...

[edited by: Hester at 9:01 am (utc) on Aug. 30, 2006]

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 10:33 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I won't be upgrading (neither will anyone in my office) - I'll just wait until I'm buying a new pc in probably two years time and I'll get it then.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 10:41 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Vista build 5536 [...] apparently has fixed a majority of bugs

Without wishing to break any NDA agreements, I can confirm that this statement is definitely NOT true. 5536 is better than earlier builds, but you'd expect that wouldn't you?

There are various ways that MSFT remove bugs from their "To Do" list, some of the current favourites appear to be:

"By design"

"Won't fix"

"Can't repro"

...

you get my drift :-)

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 10:46 am on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm buying me a new computer as soon as it comes out..must..have..more...power..

As with every other OS upgrade from MSFT in past, you do NOT get better performance by upgrading. You get more features, but at the end of day you need more raw horsepower to deliver the same perceived performance.

In essence, Vista crawls along on hardware on which Windows XP runs OK.

If you purchase new hardware in order to run Vista, I would encourage you to give XP a try on the same hardware before making your decision which OS to use.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 1:30 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>>>I, for one, will upgrade.

I will too, but will probably wait about 6 months for Service Pack 1 ;)

<<<<<<<<<

I think I will wait for service pack 2

Hollywood

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 2:18 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Earth to Microsoft - I agree with this comment below, KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid) have two versions not 4-24 versions, this aint a horse race.

"I have been reading up on the licensing issues quite a lot lately and I think Microsoft have gone out of their way to make things overly complicated. XP was fine you have two choices, Home or Professional. This made it perfectly clear. Now the whole "What version is for me" question is very blurred."

danny

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 2:54 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

One of the problems with Linux is that there are so many distributions to choose from... Microsoft is just making sure Windows users don't miss out in this area.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 8:15 pm on Aug 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Expect at least a few months delay

Nope - they'll have it out on schedule though I don't think adoption will be up to their expectations.

The really interesting stuff is going to happen in the courts - I predict a Google v Microsoft suit the day after Vista launches - as Vista will be the last major chance for MS to make big trouble for Google.

joeventura

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 12:58 pm on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well being a CIO myself, I can tell you there is NO way I am adopting this product any time soon.

With the caveat that I do not even own a Macintosh nor would I have my employees use one (only because the best software is written for PCs) have you noticed how every new release of Mac OS gives you more features with less overhead requirement?
You can run MAC OSX on a 10 year old Mac!

I mean have you seen the memory and speed requirements for Vista? OMG! You couldn't run Vista on a Pentium 3.

The code is getting fatter, more hungry for CPU and Memory and it's going to be bug ridden as usual.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 3:34 pm on Aug 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'll upgrade to Vista for my Computer Games machine. The latest games will require Vista so it's a forced upgrade.

However, I still haven't got a clue which version I'll need for playing games on. I'll be disabling all the fancy GUI features and un-needed services as soon as it's installed for performance reasons. Hopefully I'll only need Home Edition, but you never know with Microsoft, maybe they'll limit Home to machines with just 1GB of RAM or 1 processor core.

I'll stick with XP for my laptops as they'll slow to a crawl with Vista and it's not easy to upgrade them.

I'm stick with Windows 2003 for my servers, and evaluate the new Windows Server OS when they announce details.

For desktops, I'll be sticking with Ubuntu. It's just much quicker to get desktop work done with Ubuntu, Windows just adds extra licencing costs and far too much maintenence.

[edited by: mrMister at 3:38 pm (utc) on Aug. 31, 2006]

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 12:49 pm on Sep 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
- 1 GB of system memory.
- Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
- 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
- DVD-ROM Drive.
- Audio output capability.
- Internet access capability.

This would be from the same company that told us Windows XP Pro needed only a 233MHz processor and 64MB of RAM?

[microsoft.com...]

;-)

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 6:25 pm on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

And why Vista cost twice more expensive than XP?
There is really no reason to switch off XP.

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 11:26 pm on Sep 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

And why Vista cost twice more expensive than XP?

I'm not clear where you're getting that figure. According to my notes it costs about the same as initial releases of Windows 2000 ($299 suggested retail - 2000) and Windows XP (Pro version $299 suggested retail - 2001).

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 8:37 am on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

With the caveat that I do not even own a Macintosh nor would I have my employees use one (only because the best software is written for PCs)

The best software? You mean Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, etc? Have you even looked at all the great Mac-only programs you get free with OS X? Or can buy from Apple?

What you really mean is "Windows has a larger user base, so more software (not necessarily better) gets written for it."

Maybe you could clarify what this "better" software is. :)

Angelis

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 8:49 am on Sep 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:
- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
- 1 GB of system memory.
- Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
- 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
- DVD-ROM Drive.
- Audio output capability.
- Internet access capability.

Dont even bother trying with a computer with those specs.

It barely runs on my PC with 2GB RAM and a Dual Core 4800+ AMD

RussellC

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 7:28 pm on Sep 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am running Vista RC1 on a 2.8 Ghz P4 with 1GB RAM and an old ATI 9700 Pro just fine. I am not sure what you are doing wrong. I have all the Aero effects on and its actually quite speedy. If you are basing your last statement on the Beta 2, then try RC1, it's 100X faster. They still have a long way to go on application compatibility and driver stability though.

icantthinkofone

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Msg#: 3065196 posted 1:33 am on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can't figure out what I'm going to do. The kids will want it for their games. I don't know if they'll settle for XBox alone.

My wife needs Windows for Quickbooks but otherwise doesn't need Win. Too bad Quickbooks isn't on Linux or an equivalent business accounting package.

I have to use Windows for my stockbroker's software but I just gave him notice I'm dumping him for that reason alone. Otherwise, I'm totally on FreeBSD (and loving it!). I just have no use for Windows.

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