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celgins

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 5:17 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I know it's difficult to gather a clear answer to this question due to the fact that know one knows how quickly (or slowly) a person learns, but:

Would you, as a .NET programmer, recommend using a design environment (like Visual Studio.NET or Visual C#.NET) to develop ASP.NET applications;

or hardcoding user controls and other components using C#?

My thought is that hardcoding takes 10-times longer, but may help a developer better understand the code.

 

Easy_Coder

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 5:27 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

You're gonna want Visual Studio.NET 2005. They got it right with this one. The depth on the intellisense is remarkable.

Bluesplinter

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 6:58 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Another vote for VS 2005. There's just TOO much to keep it all in your head. When I first started coding with C (not ++), I pretty well knew all the functions I would need on any given project. But with the .Net Framework, I doubt anyone knows everything that's in there.

celgins

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 7:06 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

That makes sense.

I'm an old coder...(started with Pascal and C back in the early 90's). When I got into web development, I learned HTML, ASP, PHP, etc. and have been highly proficient in hand-coding with them over the years.

Never used site development software, but the ASP.NET library of functions, controls, etc. -- is extensive.

Guess I'll have to come up with the money to invest in Visual Studio.

Thanks.

johnblack



 
Msg#: 3073780 posted 7:19 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Celgins,

Have you looked at the MS Express products? These are free development tools for the .NET framework. I've been using VB Express to write Win apps for a while now and it has all the bells and whistles of the Visual Studio dev environment but without the cost.

There is a Web Express for ASP.NET sites. I've not personally used this, but if it's anything like the other Express products it should be pretty good and give you what you need.

At least try Web Express initially and if it doesn't fit the bill then you may have to pay for VS. Anything developed in the Express versions is fully compatible with Visual Studio. I.e. you can upgrade your web app easily if you change your mind about Express.

HTH

JB

Bluesplinter

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 7:25 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Absolutely, take johnblack's advice... don't hesitate to try the free Visual Web Developer Express. It's basically a web-centric version of VS 2005, and is designed expressly (ahem) and solely for working with web sites.

I used VWD until I got a copy of VS 2005, and if I had to go back to VWD, it wouldn't slow me down a bit.

Easy_Coder

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 8:59 pm on Sep 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I could never go back. vs.net 2005 is the best thing coming out of redmond (i think).

celgins

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 2:06 am on Sep 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Have you looked at the MS Express products?

Hmmm. No, I haven't. But now that you mention it, I will definitely check it out.

Wlauzon

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 5:49 am on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know how VS2005 works with (or does not work with..) the new Expressions Web?

Will it still have a place in the new lineup?

sharbel

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Msg#: 3073780 posted 11:52 pm on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

The express edition is fine if you do not have the money for VS2005. If you *do* have the money, your choice should be VS2005, hands down..

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