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Panic's "Coda" - "One Window Web Development"
New Mac Application for Web Development
gendude




msg:3322141
 6:09 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

[panic.com...]

Basically, they say it's a Text Editor + Transmit/FTP + CSS Editor + Terminal (SSH!) + Help Books, and they aren't kidding.

If you do a lot of hand-coding on a Mac, you may want to check this out. They really put a lot of time into looking at web development work flow.

$69 if you own Transmit, $79 introductory, $99 at some point thereafter.

DreamWeaver competitor? No, but then again, how many of us need DW?

I think this is aimed at those of us using a text editor and Transmit and a browser.

 

sonjay




msg:3322343
 11:31 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm downloading the trial even as we speak. Panic has such a winner with Transmit, I have to think Coda will be a very good, solid program. But after just shelling out for the Adobe CS3 upgrade package, I'll have to think hard before buying any more software for a little while.

LunaC




msg:3322455
 1:59 pm on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

I gave this a bit of a try yesterday and parts of it I'm really impressed with and others I'm disappointed in.

It looks great (OK.. that's a huge understatement.. It's beautiful!), the syntax highlighting is very nice and it feels smoother to use to me than Textmate in some ways. (Not being stuck with proportional fonts like in Textmate is a huge bonus to me, those fonts give me a major headache after a long session.)

Unless I'm missing something there's a few features I'm not seeing.

1) Preview through a local test server.. I have a feeling I just missed this, I could paste the local.site/page into preview and it worked but couldn't get it to take that info in the sites preferences.

2) Dragging and dropping an image from a finder window into Coda's text editor does nicely add the full tag including height and width but even when working in a site with a html 4.01 strict doctype it adds the xhtml closing bracket. (Did the same with an image in a .css file as well, so it's not context sensitive at all) If I could find that option, and to set it to write it as root relative (ie. /folder/image.ext) I'd be thrilled!

3) Where's the option to not connect to the sites ftp on startup? Most of the time I'm working on the test server and / or a brand new site. I'd rather it not connect until I am ready to upload. (Makes me nervous that I could accidentally send up a bad edit and not notice :S ) Honestly I'd prefer to disable ftp entirely in it and use Transmit when I'm ready to upload.

I'll probably play around with it a bit more today, so I'm sure this will be solid as well, but I think Textmate is closer to what I'm looking for in an editor.

bakedjake




msg:3322467
 2:16 pm on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Interesting! I'm a huge transmit fan too, and I just shelled out the money for CS 3 (I really need Acrobat and PS).

It'll be interesting to see what I end up using more - DW or Coda.

gendude




msg:3322589
 4:04 pm on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

1) Preview through a local test server..

They have indicated that several people have requested this and they are working on it.

2) Dragging and dropping an image from a finder window into Coda's text editor does nicely add the full tag including height and width but even when working in a site with a html 4.01 strict doctype it adds the xhtml closing bracket.

I would send them a note - Panic is usally very receptive to user input (which is a big part of why they have so many Mac fans).

3) Where's the option to not connect to the sites ftp on startup? Most of the time I'm working on the test server and / or a brand new site.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this will be addressed with whatever they do for people doing local copies.

sonjay




msg:3323018
 9:10 pm on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the review, LunaC. I still haven't unzipped the Coda download from yesterday, so your comments give me some idea of what to expect.

I too like TextMate, and Coda will have to be really really good to drag me away from TM.

I wanted to comment on this statement:
Not being stuck with proportional fonts like in Textmate

I have TM using Monaco, a monospaced font. It's right there in the preference settings under the "Fonts & Colors" icon -- at the very bottom of that pref panel. You can set the font and size you want.

basenotes




msg:3326888
 12:33 am on May 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, it's my second day of using it and I think it's going to replace my combo of YummyFTP, TextWrangler, Camino and Dreamweaver.

Good work

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