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Flash and Linux on old machines
Flash no longer works without SSE2
dstiles

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 4:30 pm on Jan 15, 2014 (gmt 0)

I previously posted in August 2012 at (now closed)
[webmasterworld.com...] about Firefox suddenly no longer working.

I surmised at the time it may have been a hardware problem but noted that it had previouls worked. We have installed and reinstalled Flash, I have roamed ixquick using (obviously) the wrong keywords.

I have only just managed to get the machine for analysis. I reinstalled a copy of Mint on a new drive (the old one had unlinked segments and one commentator said he'd repaired a disk and Flash had then worked); Flash still failed. (Also, the new disk I initially tried, a SATA one, failed to register but that may have been my incompetence. I finally installed an old 83Gb IDE drive.)

After searching around, comparing the machine with a newer one, I found a reference on an adobe forum with MANY people complaining that Adobe had now compiled their code to only work with SSE2, dropping the previous option of SSE (these are command subsets on the processor). There were some very angry people posting there, especially people with desktops and laptops only a few years old. Checking the SSE2 wiki confirmed approximate dates, processors etc.

Adobe forum at: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3161034

The Flash failure on my brother's machine was a sudden thing and, it transpires, must have followed an update of Flash which installed a version that no longer worked with Intel prior to about 2001 or AMD pre-2004. This machine uses an AMD processor and was built about 2001; it is used by my brother to familiarise himself with linux. Flash is the ONLY thing that has so far failed to work for him.

So: SOLVED but no real solution in this case. Now looking into acquiring a newer machine to continue moving from XP to Mint before XP becomes, in April, more of a liability than it already is.

Hopefully Flash will cease to be in the near future.

 

drhowarddrfine

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 3:10 pm on Jan 16, 2014 (gmt 0)

fwiw, none of my clients have any interest in using Flash for anything on their sites, and many of them are theatre companies with video presentations.

explorador

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 4:57 pm on Jan 20, 2014 (gmt 0)

Flash and Linux on old machines

I read the whole post. Yes that's what happening, I have my config to avoid auto updates or notices, I'm sticking to my current flash plugin for as long as it works. Eventually you will face problems because some flash features are pushing people to update just as Quicktime from Apple does.

Anyway there are alternatives to flash like gnash, but there is no guarantee it will always work.

off topic, I have installed several times both mint and lubuntu setting up flash player, it's interesting (not to say frustrating) how some times it was so easy and sometimes it was a royal pain in the flash...

dstiles

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 9:16 pm on Jan 20, 2014 (gmt 0)

I tried gnash - it failed to resolve at all on (eg) BBC iplayer programs. In fact nothing I tried worked. I admit that was a couple of years go. Basic problem is it has no support for any recent flash versions.

I found a web site that directly and indirectly explained how to use the Windows version of flash on linux, specifically to solve the SSE2 problem, but could not get it to work. For reference:

[ubuntuforums.org...]

explorador

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 11:35 pm on Jan 20, 2014 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the reference. I thought the approach would be difficult.

Another option is to seek for specific versions of the plugin on archives, yes it is possible, sorry can't give you the exact place. I found it by accident.

Last year there was an update that caused a bug in Firefox, losing focus, it was Flash related, the computer was upgraded with the latest and wasn't a simple way to downgrade, I found several websites saying the solution was the F2832249824098 whatever, 1.2.32..1bb build, so I went for it and by accident I found a list and resources to old plugins, you could find it with some luck and try the latest that works

dstiles

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 9:35 pm on Jan 21, 2014 (gmt 0)

Personally I would shell out a few punds for a newer computer rather than downgrade flash; it's so full of dangerous holes I almost never use it in any case, let alone adobe's arrogant dismissal of anything non-windows.

This time it's my brother's decision. He's decided to do without flash on the machine; he says he seldom uses it anyway and could run it on his Mint laptop if necessary.

Planet13

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 1:28 am on Jan 24, 2014 (gmt 0)

@ drhowarddrfine

"fwiw, none of my clients have any interest in using Flash for anything on their sites, and many of them are theatre companies with video presentations."


I gotta ask; what DO they use instead of flash then?

drhowarddrfine

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Msg#: 4637632 posted 4:18 am on Jan 24, 2014 (gmt 0)

HTML5 video and audio. Been using it exclusively for about a year now.

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