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New lap top Wheezy ?
pp46




msg:4531948
 12:33 am on Dec 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

I want to get a new lap top probably from DELL
(If you call them and say you do not want Windows with it they do take it off the price)
As long as you buy a high end model...

Anybody tried one yet with testing/Wheezy , ?

 

pp46




msg:4531950
 12:36 am on Dec 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

something like this :
[dell.com...]

BTW they used to offer computers with linux preinstalled
But I imagine the the big brother MS lobby stopped that..

martinibuster




msg:4531957
 1:47 am on Dec 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

$1299.99 and they only give you 6 GB of ram? I'm not impressed by the 32 GB mSata either, not at that price because those drives are selling pretty low now and many laptops come with a slot for an extra drive to pop them into. I know for a fact that a laptop can be had (3rd gen i5/16 GB ram, 4 USB 2.0 ports/2 USB 3.0) for half the price with more or less the same specs.

The biggest deal on the Dell system is the WLED screen. How's the performance on that and the expected lifetime on that technology? Those kinds of screens aren't too uncommon and it seems like DELL is playing it up to justify the price. But again, there are less expensive laptops with similar or better configurations that also sport similar led backlit screens.

Their system doesn't allow you to choose more RAM. If you're going to buy this laptop you really need to know how much of it the motherboard will accept (the maximum generally ranges from 8 to 16 GB) and if it's possible/easy to open up the box and install it to the max amount yourself, since the website doesn't allow you to add more. I suspect the max is 16GB, but you really should find out for sure. The DELL web page for that system doesn't seem to offer those specs, so you're kind of buying it blind except to know that it's DDR3 1600MHz (which is good). Find that out first.

savantbrian




msg:4532163
 3:12 pm on Dec 31, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've been running wheezy for a while now on an old Dell latitude with no probs. (actually now I remember setting up wifi drivers was a pain) Was running squeeze prior to that.
I would certainly recommend it for my hardware set up.
I also run it on a fairly new high spec pc.

pp46




msg:4533443
 1:19 am on Jan 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

I also run it on a fairly new high spec pc.

Cool what would that be ?

pp46




msg:4533704
 12:57 pm on Jan 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Martin buster thanks
I know for a fact that a laptop can be had (3rd gen i5/16 GB ram, 4 USB 2.0 ports/2 USB 3.0) for half the price with more or less the same specs.

Any tips ?

I have a Dell Studio xps since 2009
and allthough its not a "bomb" it works very good and regular
I run it on dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu 11.4
Unfortunately its not possible to get the driver for the HD Radeon card working on Deb/Wheezy
It seems that AMD has not got around to it.
So my concern is getting a lap top that will have a graphic card compatible..

martinibuster




msg:4533754
 7:23 pm on Jan 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

It depends on the graphics card and what you want to do with it. I don't game on laptops, however TigerDirect has an Asus 3rd gen i7 machine with a 2 GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M, a graphics card that does have linux drivers available for it. That machine, ASUS N56VJ-DH71, is currently for sale for $899. It comes stock with 8 GB of ram, upgradeable to 16 GB.

Asus is a reliable manufacturer, a very good brand. I've been very happy with their products for years. So for $400 less you get a better core i7 processor plus a better graphics cards than the Dell product.

pp46




msg:4534107
 8:39 pm on Jan 7, 2013 (gmt 0)


I am currently re-installing my Dell XPS 16 with Wheezy
trying again
Graphic card 512MB ATI RADEON HD 3670

I am sure it will not boot gdm3
if any body has any tips .

pp46




msg:4534112
 8:46 pm on Jan 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

Sorry for the misspelling in the last post martinibuster

I know Asus well, this model is not available in the EU
I am not a gamer so as far as graphics go I am not to concerned.

What bothers me is the forced selling of an operating system that I do not require. in the bundle

Like telling me which substence I need to get high on or choosing my sexual prefernces for me.

What is this world we live in?
At least we have Debian..

pp46




msg:4534119
 9:12 pm on Jan 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

seems that now
Graphic card 512MB ATI RADEON HD 3670
works on wheezy
What a blast !

minor bugs windows not moving fluid..
Great balls of fire !
(I prefer that to thank God)

Thank you the world developers of the greatest system on earth !

Yeah we know Mac BSD . Google Android, and now Ubuntu Smartphones

Open source is making millions to make the rich richer

graeme_p




msg:4535633
 8:05 am on Jan 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Why Dell in particular?

There are a few vendors who sell laptops with preinstalled Linux.

pp46




msg:4535638
 9:39 am on Jan 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Well
I always used them so far, but I would shop around now If I wanted a new.
I saw that Asus makes good ones.
Dell used to sell certain models with Ubuntu installed but I do no not see them any more, any way I do not use Ubuntu any more, It has become heavy like a windows OS and it can be buggy also
The problem comes back again to forced selling of an OS (windows) with a PC
I know these people in Atlanta [emperorlinux.com ]
but the problem is with the US keyboard as I am in the EU.Anyway the whole point with open source is to install it your self
I got my 5 year old Dell Studio XPS running now with wheezy so I have stopped shopping around.

drhowarddrfine




msg:4535663
 2:15 pm on Jan 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

I got my 5 year old Dell Studio XPS running now with wheezy ...

I gots ta say ...

I have not bought new hardware since 2001. I get new boxes and laptops from Windows users who "upgrade" to the latest OS and give me their "old computer".

pp46




msg:4535711
 5:41 pm on Jan 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yes quite right
But I also need win (dual boot) on the laptop
for some software that I need so I do need some power there..

I have a 8 year old pc with a 45$ amd chip
running on deb, it runs the whole multimedia system in house.

Did you ever notice in planes when they reboot the screen multimedia system..
its Knoppix, any airline..!

graeme_p




msg:4535886
 11:14 am on Jan 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

Where in the EU? System 76 offer the option of a UK keyboard. I think there are also some small European vendors.

Also look for laptops without OS: not that hard to find in Asia. I got one of our laptops (from Lenovo) that way/

pp46




msg:4535899
 11:20 am on Jan 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

graeme_p

France ;)
Lenova looks good thanks for the tip - they have a French site also.

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