Mark_A
msg:4161175 | 8:58 am on Jun 29, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I am having a break to seek new inspiration at the moment.
I spent every morning for about 3 weeks and managed to get just 10 new inward links. I sure hope they count because it was like pulling teeth to get them.
I have exhausted looking at where my competitors get their links and asking there.
There must be other ways, I am awaiting a touch of inspiration and then I will get back to it. :-)
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amythepoet
msg:4161178 | 9:05 am on Jun 29, 2010 (gmt 0) |
oh ok, Ill do the same thanks and to find out where my competitors get their links, is there a tool I can ujse, I am on a mac
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amythepoet
msg:4161179 | 9:05 am on Jun 29, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I am looking for external links, 1 way links
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Mark_A
msg:4161182 | 9:17 am on Jun 29, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Hi amythepoet, I didn't use any tools, I just started with the best ranking competitor against my important terms and checked their links in google and sometimes in bing / yahoo also..
I think in google it is link:domain.com
The thing is, you will never overtake your competitors using this technique because you are being a follower, but it is one way to start the ball rolling.
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amythepoet
msg:4161185 | 9:31 am on Jun 29, 2010 (gmt 0) |
ok thank you
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Crush
msg:4161877 | 6:01 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
robots. Go and drink tea or play tennis, come back mail and then process inbox.
After weeks of looking through sites you will realise that this is practically the same thing but a lot faster and less stressful.
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amythepoet
msg:4161943 | 9:48 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
that's right, excellent idea , now in google with link: domain.com, do you put a space after the : before the domain.com or no space?
thank you
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Mark_A
msg:4161964 | 11:12 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| in google with link: domain.com, do you put a space after the : before the domain.com or no space? |
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I think it is no space...
link:domain.com
or
link:www.domain.com
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amythepoet
msg:4161966 | 11:26 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
well, I get two different results, I get more with a space after the :
what can I do about that please?
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Mark_A
msg:4161976 | 11:42 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
hmm... perhaps the site in question has people linking to it as www.domain.com and domain.com ... Are they completely different websites and can you see the links?
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Mark_A
msg:4161984 | 11:50 am on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
these people [linkpopularity.com...]
are suggesting it should be with www...
No idea if they are right though
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amythepoet
msg:4161988 | 12:01 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
it is the same site and I get more listings under the www and then my domain
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amythepoet
msg:4161991 | 12:04 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
well bing shows over 3000 links coming in to my site
yet g, only shows 27 but when I do a link: space and then the www. my site
I get over 23 ,000
I baffled here, please help
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Mark_A
msg:4161998 | 12:47 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
well, I think we just have to work it out.
what I see in google is link:www.mydomain.com gives me a small number of pages which definately link to www.mydomain.com
If I try link: www.mydomain.com (with a space) I get a lot more results but they quickly include sites which just have the word mydomain in them rather than having a link on the page. So with the space does not seem to provide only pages that link to www.mydomain.com
however, if I try link:mydomain.com I actually get the same result as link:www.mydomain.com
And if I try link: mydomain.com (with the space but without the www) again I get the invalid results which was also produced by link: www.mydomain.com
So I would say that without the space is the way to do it in google, and it does not (for me) make any difference if I include the www or not.
Does that sound reasonable to you amythepoet?
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Mark_A
msg:4162000 | 12:48 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
And btw google does not show all the links that there are to a site for some reason so it is reasonable sometimes to check links in bing or yahoo to get a more complete picture. www.linkpopularity.com can indicate how to check links in bing or yahoo as it is not the same as in google with their "link" operator.
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amythepoet
msg:4162002 | 12:50 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
well Mark, no, it's two completely different results and I've had this site for years and I've lost rankings, it's terrible and I"m working day and night on this thing. I do not get the same results
from link:mydomain.com
to link: (space) mydomain.com
should I send a note to google?
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Mark_A
msg:4162005 | 12:53 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
from link:mydomain.com
to link: (space) mydomain.com |
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I think we have crossed wires. I would not expect to see the same results from without the space and with the space.
I would expect to see the same results between:
link:mydomain.com
and
link:www.mydomain.com
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amythepoet
msg:4162008 | 12:57 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
that's right, we have crossed wires
and I do get the same results
link:mydomain.com
and
link:www.mydomain.com
However, when I go like this:
link: www.mydomain.com, i get many more, thousands and that is right
and when I use google webmaster tools, they should a few thousand going to be site, totally confusing
so I did a redirect in .htacess file, is that good< please say yes!
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Mark_A
msg:4162010 | 1:00 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| so I did a redirect in .htacess file, is that good< please say yes! |
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Sorry, I don't know about that.
But it may be possible that some people have linked to www.yoursite.com and others have linked to yoursite.com which might explain the differences in results.
The pages that are listed in response to your queries, do they all include a link to yoursite.com?
PS, you modified your last post while I was writing gthis one.
I would expect link: www.yoursite.com (with the space) to produce way more results than link:www.yoursite.com (without a space).
But the results with a space are not valid, they include lots of pages that do NOT have a link to your site. [edited by: Mark_A at 1:03 pm (utc) on Jun 30, 2010]
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amythepoet
msg:4162014 | 1:02 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
what do you mean my queries? you mean, if I search for electronic widgets, do they come up in my site, yes
do they all include a link to my site, I don't know, how do I find out please?
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amythepoet
msg:4162016 | 1:04 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
How do I find reputable new links, one way I guess, would be preferable to two way, I mean, reciprocal, is that correct? but reciprocal links as long as they are target are ok, is that right too?
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Mark_A
msg:4162017 | 1:05 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Yes, I think one way links are preferrable.
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amythepoet
msg:4162024 | 1:18 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
ok
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Mark_A
msg:4162025 | 1:20 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
And, it is my understanding that a smaller number of good links can be more effective than a larger number of less important links.
So perhaps 2 links from TBPR5 pages might be a lot more valuable than 20 from TBPR1 pages.
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amythepoet
msg:4162039 | 1:27 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I get it, I also just sent you a sticky note
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tigger
msg:4162040 | 1:32 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| So perhaps 2 links from TBPR5 pages might be a lot more valuable than 20 from TBPR1 pages. |
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disagree completely - more links from sites means a better spread of anchor used, less risk ( due to site dropping link or getting a penalty) and far more of a chance of the links not looking controlled - so give me the 20 links any day of the week
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buckworks
msg:4162041 | 1:32 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
link: (space) mydomain.com
is a completely different search from
link:mydomain.com
so of course you'll get different results.
If you're researching links you want the one without the space. The other will simply show you instances where the words in your domain name happen to be mentioned, which might not even be you.
| I baffled here, please help |
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I'd expect a poet to take more care with language than that...
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Mark_A
msg:4162045 | 1:36 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| tigger: - so give me the 20 links any day of the week |
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Oh, well tigger you could be right, but I definately read few people in the link forum library saying that a few big links could change a site quickly rather than lots of low PR links which would have less effect.
I know what you mean about security, if you only have 5 links and one is deleted, that is 20% gone, whereas 1 of 20 or 30 is much less significant.
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amythepoet
msg:4162048 | 1:38 pm on Jun 30, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Dear Buck,
Both the link: with the space and without the space go to my site.
It seems to me Buck that you are looking for an argument from me. You won't get one. Please just be nice. Thank you.
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