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Keywords doing well, but could be better
keywords to root or deep link for optimised page
bleached

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 1:44 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have a site that ranks well for certain KWs to the root domain. All well and good but the KWs could rank higher (I hope) as the root domain is not optimised for these KWs, the root domain in this case is optimised for more general KWs.

Should I build links for the root domain for these more specific KWs or build deep links to the pages where the KWs are optimised?

 

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 9:45 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Makes sense to have visitors land on the page that is most appropriate for the keyword phrase. Build links to those pages.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 10:30 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

There is a significant proportion of visitors who give up if the answer isn't on the landing page. As martinbuster says try and get visitors landing in the right place first time.

bleached

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 11:02 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Cheers for the replies.

I totally agree it is best if a visitor lands directly on the page they require, however, if they land on the root in this case they do get what they want, and then they are only one click away from what they really want. This lead me to...

When an link is pointed in this case to the root domain, would any positive influence for this specific KW (anchored) follow through to the deeper page (from main menu) or does the effect only influence the page it is anchored to? This question is only from the SERP point of view and not for PR matters.

With your kind wisdom on this I think I can come to a conclusion on if to 1. Start building deeper links as a long term strategy for this specific page and take any beneficial ranking as a pat on the back OR 2. Build as I am and put up with a maybe higher bounce rate resulting from them landing on a not so desirable page.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 11:42 pm on Jan 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

then they are only one click away from what they really want

If they are still one click away from what they really want they didn't get to where they wanted did they?

Besides, you'll have a stronger site if you optimize for each landing page individually because just optimizing for the root means if you ever lose your ranking for that page, which happens, you lose the entire thing.

Spread the link love around the site, make the whole site a destination, not just the home page.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 12:02 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

If they are still one click away from what they really want they didn't get to where they wanted did they?

It's worth repeating - this is more important than I suspect you think it is.
One click away means a noticeable number of your visitors' next click is away, not to your site.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 8:08 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)


One click away means a noticeable number of your visitors' next click is away, not to your site.

My original comment was based on observation of a site that I used to run. A search for "red widgets" could arrive on a widget classification page with links to red, blue and green widget pages and people still wouldn't make that single click.

Deep linking to the classification page had the benefit of upping its subsidiary pages in the SERPS and let me add some indexable text that wasn't appropriate for the home page. Net results were better than getting all the hits on the home page but still not perfect.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 8:51 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Thanks again.

So it is clear to start deep linking and not to the root. Would the best situation in this case be to adjust the internal link structure and anchor out from the root the text (already ranking high, but not so much for the deeper page) to the optimised page, if not is there a better technique? It may seem basic and logical the answer to this, but it would be great to know what is best way to deal with this situation.

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Msg#: 4055887 posted 9:41 am on Jan 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Don't worry about internal anchors.

Typical ranking scenario can look like this:

The main index page should be general. Longer tail pages support the relevance of the home page (the tip of the pyramid), they help the home page rank for the general one or two word phrase.

The second level pages rank for two to three word phrases, still somewhat general. These are generally hub pages that link out to more granular pages. So the the second level pages are like Green Widgets, and the more granular pages, the third level pages, are like Cheap Green Widgets or Cheap Used Green Widgets.

Third level pages rank for myriad longtail phrases. They're the bottom of the pyramid. So they not only rank for Cheap Used Green Widgets, but they also rank for Vintage Cheap Used Green Widgets and other oddball combinations, including misspellings, which you can put in the keyword meta.

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