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How to Build Links without Paying for them?
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kaleem1974




msg:4018383
 6:30 pm on Nov 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have a question, that how can i generate backlinks for my clients website without doing paid link, advertising or any kind of paid submission.

Because we have a deal that if i generate 100 backlinks then he will pay me for 100 backlinks.
In my view what i need to do:
1. Directory submission
2. Article submission
3. Social Bookmarking submission.

know is there any other way plz help me so i can generate links for him.

 

wheel




msg:4018457
 7:42 pm on Nov 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

lol @ your client. He made no mention of any type quality, this is strictly volume? Ouch. I wouldn't do that to my domain.

But, if you must, google dp forums. There's about a hundred new directories a day over there that offer free submissions. Just watch the announcements and submit to each one. You'll have a hundred really crappy links in no time.

ken_b




msg:4018460
 7:46 pm on Nov 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Build Links without Paying for them

You pay for them one way or the other. Either with time and effort, or with cash.

dan404




msg:4018595
 11:11 pm on Nov 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

kaleem
any kind of paid submission

Kind of have your hands tied as far as quality goes.

There is no secret other than focusing on the quality of the links.
Ignoring quality, there are numerous auto-submitters out there that will give you a link in their directory provided you give them your email address(get ready for the spam) but they are links.
All that junk for 100 almost certainly useless links?
I'd rather work all day long for one good link.

freelistfool




msg:4029722
 7:31 pm on Nov 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'd rather work all day long for one good link.

Well said. Quality is important. However, I don't think you need to pay for links to get quality links. Offer good content or a good tool and people will link to you because they find your site interesting.

rj87uk




msg:4029733
 7:43 pm on Nov 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Its been some time since ive posted in the Link Dev forum. Over the past two years Ive noticed its harder to get solid quality links without asking (and even when asking) however in this day and age its easier to get links from blogs and other web 2.0 media however these type of links only seem to last for a short time before they are buried under what seems piles of rubbish.

So my advice for you is to put link code on your website so that others can easily link to your website and chase down every good lead and Email other owners with personalised messages. Other ideas include creating awards for other site owns to display on their websites that would link back to your website (example, if a poor one but you get the idea).

I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems that good marketing ideas, innovation and perseverance is winning this battle for links now.

PS wheel: I wouldn't discount the value of low quality links in the words of Tesco: Every little helps.

FranticFish




msg:4031446
 12:40 pm on Nov 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

Every little helps

Depends. A friend's client just killed the fledging rankings he'd established for them on two terms with just 200 crap directory links. -950'ed.

The analysis and care needed to make crap directories less of a risk (check IP, check sitewides, check quality of listings, vary anchor text, vary description) you might as well focus that effort on a proper link in the first place.

Remember, just because you see them in ranking sites profiles doesn't mean they are counted. Very interesting comment on another thread on WebmasterWorld where someone referred to Matt Cutts at PubCon pulling up an internal tool to check a link profile and stated that only THREE of site x's ONE HUNDRED links were actually passing any benefit.

Less is more.

halcyonlost




msg:4037810
 7:10 pm on Dec 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

The best free backlinks are articles, forum posts, blog comments and profile links. Just stick to these and you should be able to rank up in less then 3 months.

tihami




msg:4038459
 2:16 am on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

what mean by profile links, pages in facebook twitter or social media is profile links?

halcyonlost




msg:4040987
 10:11 pm on Dec 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

@ tihami: I mean like actors fan sites. They usually have profiles that you can add your link to. Just make sure it's dofollow.

LifeinAsia




msg:4041005
 10:38 pm on Dec 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

If the deal is that sleazy, make 100 combined profiles on FaceBook, MySpace, Twitter, and other sites and include a link back to the site. That's 100 easy (albeit crap) links.

CainIV




msg:4042111
 10:52 pm on Dec 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

Cheap guy always pays twice

johnnie




msg:4042292
 1:29 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I wish I could get paid per link! Article submission GO! ;)

johnnie




msg:4042298
 1:31 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

If the deal is that sleazy, make 100 combined profiles on FaceBook, MySpace, Twitter, and other sites and include a link back to the site. That's 100 easy (albeit crap) links.

Or even better; go to the aforementioned dp forums and hire a guy from India to do it for half your earnings.

Edge




msg:4042305
 2:19 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

You pay for them one way or the other. Either with time and effort, or with cash.

2X

- The web has matured and most foks with websites that pass backlink juice know it. One can spend an entire day pleading for a link or just go to a site that is on subject matter, quality, and passes juice and pay the asking price. With their time freed up they can then work on other stuff that will add value or revenue to thier website.

msantore




msg:4042383
 6:00 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Great thread!

Quick question for a SEO Newb, @ Frantic Fish - What are "Sitewides"?

ken_b




msg:4042400
 7:03 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

msantore

What are "Sitewides"?

Those are links or ads that appear on every page of a site.

IanCP




msg:4042560
 1:58 am on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

You'll have a hundred really crappy links in no time

Paid for? Crappy? Both of equal value in my eyes.

Of course in the good old days we got links because we provided "rich valuable content". An old fashioned idea I know.

winttery




msg:4042586
 4:01 am on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

you can exchange links with others.

abhishekkaushik




msg:4042605
 5:20 am on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

link building is an art...you know directory submission, article syndication and link exchange. but how to do these effectively with success instead of panic when no return from those effort ...you will know all these secrets slowly when actually start doing link building

anand84




msg:4042709
 12:54 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Depends. A friend's client just killed the fledging rankings he'd established for them on two terms with just 200 crap directory links. -950'ed.

I doubt it. I mean, unless it was one of those directories which require you to link to them before them considering yours. Otherwise, I could just spend one week submitting all my competitors' links to these crap directories so these competitors will all go away.

signor_john




msg:4042758
 2:56 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Of course in the good old days we got links because we provided "rich valuable content". An old fashioned idea I know.

That still happens. I link to "rich valuable content" information sites (and relevant promotional or corporate sites) all the time. Unfortunately, most people who go trolling for links haven't heard that "content" isn't a synonym for "filler." :-)

cnvi




msg:4043088
 10:11 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

can i generate backlinks for my clients website without doing paid link, advertising or any kind of paid submission.

Sorry for my delay in replying. There is a very simple way to generate quality links over a long period of time which alot of people never think about. It's simple.

Create a "Link Request Form" or use an editor based software to produce the form for you and then put it on your website with some verbiage in a corner on your homepage where other websites will see it:

"Do you have a website in the INSERT-KEYWORD-HERE industry? We are always interested in linking with relevant sites in the ANOTHERKEYWORD, , ANOTHERKEYWORD, & related market segments. Click here to request your link." Hyperlink both sentences to your suggest link form.

On the form you can explain your rules such as only relevant links will be published. Sure you will get some junk link requests. Disregard them and delete them. You will also get relevant link requests. Some of those will go ahead and link to your site because they are anticipating your approving their link. You can improve the odds by creating link categories that target the markets you want links from. The other website is more likely to go ahead and link to your site if they see you have a related relevant category where their link can live on your site.

Gasps! This sounds like link exchange! Shields up! You do not have to link back to every single site that requests a link from you. If you do this correctly you will get one way links from relevant sites and if you want to make them two ways (reciprocals), there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

If you set it up correctly you will get relevant links from sites that see you are open to linking. As long as you maintain full editorial control and avoid full duplex services and software, you will naturally attract relevant links because sites request links from sites that openly make it known they link.

On my personal website that is in the aviation industry, my verbiage reads like this:

Do you have a website in the aviation industry? We are always interested in linking with relevant sites in the pilot, air traffic, aircraft, & related market segments. Click here to request your link.

I hyperlink all three sentences directly to my suggest link form. This generates (on average) about 45 link requests inbound to my site every month. About 20 of them link to my site FIRST without my doing anything other than giving them the option to link with my site. I am very picky about who I link back to.. I might only link back to 5-10 a month. Most of the sites that request links with mine and link to my site first leave the link up because they are hoping I will link to them later.

Using this simple classic method, I generate relevant links every month in very slow volume with very high relevancy. Over 9 years of my having this site online I have about 800 inbound highly relevant links. I have not paid for a single one. I rank in the top theee for my keywords.

This type of link building existed pre-Google and it still is alive and well especially among niche markets. Call it whatever you want.

[edited by: cnvi at 10:35 pm (utc) on Dec. 14, 2009]

martinibuster




msg:4043093
 10:18 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

link building is an art...you know directory submission, article syndication and link exchange.

That's not really link building. ;)

[edited by: martinibuster at 9:12 am (utc) on Dec. 15, 2009]

wheel




msg:4043152
 12:06 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

cnvi, thanks for posting that. That's one of the most interesting tidbits I've seen in quite a while. I'm in an industry that's link hungry with a strong ranking site, I really have to chew over doing something like this......

FranticFish




msg:4043307
 9:06 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

I doubt it. I mean, unless it was one of those directories which require you to link to them before them considering yours. Otherwise, I could just spend one week submitting all my competitors' links to these crap directories so these competitors will all go away.

Feel free to doubt it :)

These were one-way 'SEO-friendly' links.

It's well-established that crap links don't always have a negative effect, if the site being targeted has a strong enough profile.

The site in question does not have a strong profile.

Like I said this was for two terms only, two new terms, all other terms still doing fine. The fact that rankings tanked for exactly the two terms used for the crap directory links is a bit hard to explain otherwise hmmm?

internetheaven




msg:4043312
 9:20 am on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Or even better; go to the aforementioned dp forums and hire a guy from India to do it for half your earnings.

I think he is the half-earnings India guy:

Because we have a deal that if i generate 100 backlinks then he will pay me for 100 backlinks.

There are ways to get 500+ backlinks in less than 24 hours with only 5 minutes work ... I'm not going to tell you how because a good fisherman doesn't hand his rod, reel, timetable and map to someone else and then expect to still be in business.

Luckily, sounds like this guy doesn't know what he wants. So I'd go with trawling the DP link exchange forums. Probably best to find out how to do a job before taking the contract in the future. Work for a link building company. There are thousands in India.

caine




msg:4044221
 4:52 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

There are a lot of idiotic link hunting firms in India that think on topic is linking a dog too a watch which demeans the concept of context or themes.

caine




msg:4044225
 4:56 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Feel free to doubt it happy!

These were one-way 'SEO-friendly' links.

It's well-established that crap links don't always have a negative effect, if the site being targeted has a strong enough profile.

The site in question does not have a strong profile.

Like I said this was for two terms only, two new terms, all other terms still doing fine. The fact that rankings tanked for exactly the two terms used for the crap directory links is a bit hard to explain otherwise hmmm?

is this off the back of a corn flakes packet. How can a site have strong profile if all of its incoming links are junk ? unless you're working on the theory of sending 10K links to that site from instant directories and directories that have 100K link outs from a PR4 home page. The PR can spread thing, but i think your proposing something that is not possible, and further arguing for absolutely junky linking

belenenses




msg:4044246
 5:25 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

HI,

AS I understand it, most good sites are moving towards following Google's 'no-follow' strictures. Surely this means that the days of dropping spammy comments on Facebook, Twitter, Blogs etc., are numbered?

B.

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