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Link Building with my own blogs at Wordpress
kinley

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 12:29 pm on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I am trying to build back links for mysite.com

For this, I created a couple of Wordpress/ Blogspot blogs on the same niche. I re-write content from the web and post it here. Then I link out to my main site from these blogs.

Are these links useful for my site rankings or will Google devalue them?

Thanks

 

drakke

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 1:11 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

I don't think it would hurt but creating some original content and getting links from genuine websites would probably be a better use of your time.

kinley

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:07 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks drakke for the suggestion.

You mean to say that I post my "re-written" content to famous industry blogs and also to submitting to article sites would be good thing to do?

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:11 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Who links to the blogs (so that the links from the blogs are worth something)? If you can build content on the blogs that's good enough to attract good quality inbound links... good enough to help you... why not just put the content on your own site in the first place?

I'm assuming that unless you exercise a lot of discipline, which most don't, Google will have no trouble spotting this as spam. Google might even consider it paid blog spam and slap you with a penalty.

I remember that there were a lot of reports recently of sites being penalized for blog spam, but I can't locate the thread right now.

kinley

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:41 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks Robert for the input.

I understand what you say here. I will stop this activity immediately.

But I have already created 5 blogs (on WP)and posted 5 posts in each of them. I have also given one back-link to mysite.com from each of the posts (5*5=25)

I hope this will not result in a Google penalty?

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:59 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Dump them. Take them down.

kinley

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 6:14 am on Sep 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Going ahead and dumping them :)

zico

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 12:11 am on Sep 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

I just wanted to say thanks for the valuable info in this thread, as I'm a newbie, this is all great information for me.

Cheers!

rros

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 12:39 am on Sep 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

> I created a couple of Wordpress/ Blogspot blogs on the same niche.
> I re-write content from the web and post it here.

Like Robert, I think there is little value on the above and you may be placing yourself in a tight spot. But if you change "re-write" for "original" and "same niche" for "related subject" then you can create a stream of independent traffic. And then, it will make sense to offer your visitors a link to mysite.com as an alternative to test their interest. But this may imply real work and the essence of it would be traffic, not linking. Backlinks would be the consequence, not the primary goal.

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:42 pm on Sep 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

...then you can create a stream of independent traffic.

Even with the original content that's not "right on" in terms of keywords, the obviousness of the linking setup, IMO, is still going to be spotted as a mini-link network, which is spam.

See Google's Webmaster Guidelines [google.com], and in particular what they have to say about link schemes [google.com].

However, some webmasters engage in link exchange schemes and build partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites. This is in violation of Google's webmaster guidelines and can negatively impact your site's ranking in search results.

rros

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:28 pm on Sep 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

You are right, you are right. The original intent cannot be camouflaged.

buckworks

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 3:13 am on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

the quality of the links, the sources

A great deal would depend on quality. If you built satellite sites that were good enough to attract quality organic links of their own, you might escape being labelled a spammer.

But that still wouldn't make it a smart strategy compared to other things you could be doing.

If you're capable of creating such quality, don't waste it on satellite sites when you could put the content on your primary site to attract the links that would help it become a true authority.

The bottom line here is that the search engines are a lot less impressed by self-generated networks than they used to be.

7_Driver

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 3:38 pm on Oct 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think you're being paranoid taking them down.

If a few links from blogs pointed at your site was enough to get it penalised, then what's to stop me putting up a few blogs, linking to my competitors, and having the SERPS all to myself?

Google have thought of that. The worst they're likely to do is devalue or discount the links.

samgemini

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:53 am on Oct 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I second 7_Driver.

More over if you remove/dump the blogs you created then Google will know for sure that it was you who created those blogs to manipulate the rankings. And they might apply a penalty on you. Just my 2cents!

Lorel

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 2:37 pm on Oct 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have a blog (off site) relevant to my main website but I only post articles on there that I don't repeat on my website and I rarely link to my main website from the blog. I use it mainly for more traffic to my website. My site and blog are both doing fine. I wish I would have put the blog on my website however to grow more pages.

guia

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:30 am on Oct 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

Iíve seen sites singlehandedly dominate the SERPS for specific keyword phrases using this technique alone. Iím guessing itís due to a number of factors:

* The links appear naturally over time
* The links are deep within content which also appears to be natural
* The links are coming from multiple sources

onepointone

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:48 am on Oct 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

I love 'spreading the word' about my websites on 3rd party sites. And have'nt yet noticed any negative effects.

I vary anchor text, send the links to different sites, sometimes not mine, sometimes just text, no links.

Sim99

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 9:15 am on Oct 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I am new here, so forgive my ignorance!

I have a friend who currently creates tons of inbound links each week for his site.

They are all from non-related blogs, with one link to his blog site (even though he is doing it for his main site). In every blog, he uses exactly the same copy - word for word, with the same link, in the same place etc.

I've told him that I am pretty sure this strategy will fail in the mid to long term, if not sooner.

Shouldn't copy be unique? If so should it be unique to each blog post, or can you replicate a bit?

Shouldn't the links not come from related sites?

Isn't it better to link to his-site.com, rather than blog.his-site.com?

Any help is appreciated!

FranticFish

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 2:35 pm on Oct 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

If he's commenting on blogs then he could be wasting his time if he's doing it for links and the comments are 'nofollow'.

If you care about your link profile long term on the web this is a strategy that has risk attached to it, although fake blog posts and other blog spam are definitely working right now in all the SERPS I've looked at in depth lately.

brickmarketing

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 2:24 pm on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

This is considered a blog farm and not the best form of marketing. Eventually Google will find you and pull those blogs down and also your website. Build your links naturally through proactive online marketing and you will see much better results.

FranticFish

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 5:35 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Eventually Google will find you and pull those blogs down and also your website

I hope they will, but this has been working for a long time now in 'internet time'. I'm definitely not advocating this, but people were saying it wouldn't last years ago and it still powers many 1st place rankings.

Sim99

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 6:33 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks guys for the replies - I take your point FFish that people are getting away with it. Personally though I think it's not worth the risk and it is better to be safe than sorry.

ewriter

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 6:07 am on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Blog have been part of the website. It is a good source of back links too. However, when you post something to your blog it should have quality enough to catch visitors. Once the blog establish it's own authority that is the time you can make or add links going to the sites. In my experience, it took me about 40 blog post before i got the blog authority and it start throwing BL to my main site.

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:14 am on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have some competitors that only have back links from their own sites and they have been ranking fine for many years.

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 3991536 posted 7:35 pm on Oct 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

I should add that I have know other self contained networks that have been gone overnight, so it does happen, but I personally wish it would happen more to some of my competitors.

joedavies1987



 
Msg#: 3991536 posted 11:05 pm on Nov 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think if you go ahead and create some real sites, on proper domains aswell as free blogspot domains, on real topics,

and include a link to YOUR site,aswell as others... what;s the problem?

Google going to penalize you for building websites and creating quality content? if its in the same niche what's the problem in linking back.

Be natural.

Pretend you don;t know about google, but you want to make a lot of sites on the same sort of topic, that is your interest after all.

No go ahead and interlink, where you see fit... not on every post. this isnt natural.

You get what I mean?

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