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Best time to send out link requests?
Makaveli2007




msg:3885474
 3:19 pm on Apr 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Not a discussion whether link requests work or not, but for those who use them, any idea when's the best time to send out a link request?

Of course, I might want to test it (but I send out very personalized ones, thus it would be hard to get a significant sample size any time soon), but maybe some of you have had experience with that.

My guess would be that Friday is a bad time, because people are about to start the week-end...and that sending them out on the weekend and/or early monday is even worse, because people will have their inbox cluttered with spam from the weekend they havent sorted out, yet (depending on what kind of webmaster it is, of course. Im referring to people whose website is part of their work).

 

cnvi




msg:3886730
 10:10 pm on Apr 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have found anytime is fine as long as the link request is short no more than two sentences. And the target site should be highly relevant to my own site. I just sent out a link request out and it was this short:

"We own and operate [my_domain] .. a lot of our users would be interested in [your_product_name_here]. Would you be interested in linking with us?"

martinibuster




msg:3886736
 10:23 pm on Apr 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Not during major holidays, both secular and religious.
Not during sprink breaks.
Summer is a bit slow because some are taking vacations.

Otherwise it doesn't matter what day of the week.

Makaveli2007




msg:3887087
 12:27 pm on Apr 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

@cnvi: I was talking about (one-way) link requests not link exchanges ("linking with us" sounds like that) for which 2 sentences probably won't do (though I still try to keep them as brief as I possibly could).

@martinibuster: thanks. Have you asked college professors or teachers for links? I assume in that case, it would be a good idea to find out when they have to grade exams/when holidays are, etc..

I was thinking a college professor operating his own site might actually be easier to contact during holidays (if it's about his personal website) than during the semester.

martinibuster




msg:3895102
 8:50 am on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

>>>I was thinking a college professor operating his own site might actually be easier to contact during holidays...

Not really. Most of them are on vacation. Non-faculty staff may still be on campus but students and faculty are for the most part gone. Pretty much every university publishes a calendar with holidays and breaks. Important to be aware of this if soliciting university links. That's why I recommended not sending requests during spring break or summer. ;)

henry0




msg:3895124
 11:07 am on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

In another life I had experience in managing up to two hundreds employees, believe me; Mondays: People are not there yet :) , and Fridays they're already gone!

<edit> in addition: Tuesdays are catching up times, Wednesdays are good, but Thursdays are weekend planing time :) OK sounds like a joke but if there is more than a few employees my statement is pretty much true.
so mid-week is the target</edit>

Gomvents




msg:3895160
 1:57 pm on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

Monday through Thursday during working hours is ideal. Make note of time zones. When sending to an Indian webmaster don't send during a Hindu festival. When sending to American / British webmasters be sure to use proper grammar, keep it short, and try to send during the work day, not 2AM as it just reeks of overseas spam.

BaseballGuy




msg:3895171
 2:18 pm on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

6am PST on Mondays. That ensures it reaches my east coast brethren at 9am and if West Coast, it has time to marinate in the inbox until the webmaster awakes.

Get 'em first thing in the morning on the work week and get it out of the way.

Anytime after 9am and I find that people's energy just isn't there.

[edited by: BaseballGuy at 2:19 pm (utc) on April 18, 2009]

MrHard




msg:3895350
 10:44 pm on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

I don't think one way link requests are appropriate, unless you are letting them know about your link to them so they can consider linking back to you.

[edited by: MrHard at 10:45 pm (utc) on April 18, 2009]

jdbnd




msg:3895379
 12:58 am on Apr 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

One way link requests "not appropriate"? How about if your site is something that might actually be useful to their visitors? Funny enough, some people are actually grateful to be made aware of stuff like that.

tangor




msg:3895409
 2:27 am on Apr 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

Humpday... ie. Wednesday. Monday is catch up. Tuesday is work. Thursday is scramble to finish by Friday which is shot looking at the weekend. That said, if the request is short, sweet, and INTERESTING then it is the pitch not the day of week that makes it go.

Makaveli2007




msg:3895433
 3:24 am on Apr 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

If one way link requests are not appropriate I'm going to refer to wheel as Mr. inappropriate from now on - if I remember he/you never give(s) a link back LOL

MrHard




msg:3895879
 3:54 am on Apr 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

How about if your site is something that might actually be useful to their visitors?

You must have much time to care about other people sites and whether their visitors are getting what they need. I think not.

What you are really up to. Not linking back in order to improve you rankings and pagerank with an unreciprocated incoming link, probably with your suggested anchor text dropped into the conversation somewhere by accident.

Were not dumb here.

Machiavellianism (the use of cunning and deceit in politics or generally).

[edited by: MrHard at 4:18 am (utc) on April 20, 2009]

nealrodriguez




msg:3896162
 3:00 pm on Apr 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

the best time to make cold communication, or reach out to people you don't know or barely know, is 8:30 to 9:30 am on a monday; probably 9:30 am would be a good time because that's when people typically 1st engage the inbox; you'll be at the top of the list. definitely avoid fridays or any other days leading to some time off;

Makaveli2007




msg:3896234
 4:22 pm on Apr 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

@neal: Ah, that's a new insight I hadnt considered, yet..trying to be at the top of their inbox list, because what's on top is probably more likely to be read. Now I see why sending an e-mail out on the weekend or friday might be a horrible idea...people might go through the first 20 e-mails and reply to the most important ones, and then be tired and reply to less and less of the stuff they sort through.

@MrHard:

Reciprocal links don't do much for anyone anymore these days. If your link building strategy focusses on getting "two-way links", that probably means you are very new to this (which I dont mean in a negative way, at all) and are thinking that giving a link and getting a link every time is a great win-win approach. In reality it's more of a lose-lose approach (time / opportunity cost).

Simply because somebody is trying to improve their search engine rankings doesn't mean they're trying to deceive anyone. They know link exchanges don't do much for anyone, and the majority of websites/webmasters that are worth getting links from know that...which is why it isn't easy to get good links these days...and why the majority of link requests is denied (or not even replied to).

However, those that do work usually work because they have content the other webmaster finds very useful. That webmaster on the other end will decline the majority of link requests (or not even reply to / read them), however if he does indeed give a link back, it probably was because he thinks linking out to what he links out is useful content for his website's visitors.

Of course attention wh*ring type of "link bait" work, too, but you should be fair enough not to assume that everybody who tries to build links to their websites engages in them.

nealrodriguez




msg:3902706
 8:45 pm on Apr 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

people might go through the first 20 e-mails and reply to the most important ones, and then be tired and reply to less and less of the stuff they sort through.

and less and less of the stuff sent from those they don't know.

stevebaik




msg:3909036
 11:49 pm on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

And don't expect too many responses. Some emails will end up in the spam box and others will simply get deleted.

It's a numbers games. So, you might get 1 or 2 responses for every 10 you send out.

Slinger




msg:3909045
 12:06 am on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

[ JdBnd: One way link requests "not appropriate"? How about if your site is something that might actually be useful to their visitors? Funny enough, some people are actually grateful to be made aware of stuff like that. ]

You make a good point JdBnd. We have all been so brain-washed to follow our SEO God's, "Lord G" rules, that we have forgotten what the web was like in the 1990's when linking to sites for the common sense of it was...well...common sense. It's ashame really. The web would be a much more connected place if it wasn't for Lord "G".

Makes me think of "WhoVille" in the Grinch Stole Christmas. They joined hands ANYWAY even though "G" stole christmas. How ironic they both have the letter "G" at the beginning of their names.

One way links are really a great idea...except the only sites who will do it usually have nothing to lose.

RickGlaser




msg:3912054
 7:50 pm on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

Send a request when you are extremely satisfied with how your site looks. Also, when send a request do it personally and 1 at a time. Keep automation at a minimum.

Also, ask for links from relevant sources, and don't mention PR or search engine rankings. Add value to their visitors and you will have success.

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