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Yackstovic




msg:3763295
 10:53 pm on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Okay, I've optimized my website with keywords...
I've submitted to loads of directories.
I've submitted atleast 35 articles
I've got a blog
I'm getting incoming links to my website (Contextual)

Is there really anything else I can do?
Any sneaky tricks that I don't know about to get links?

 

Pitafi




msg:3763648
 1:44 pm on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi,

As you have submitted on all kind of submission tecniques, but still there is something more to do. you should submit your links on some social networks also, for getting higher rankings. And make sure that your submissions are approved still waiting for approval. Approved links are helpful for giving quality inbounds i think.

Pitafi




msg:3763649
 1:46 pm on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi,

As you have submitted on all kind of submission tecniques, but still there is something more to do. you should submit your links on some social networks also, for getting higher rankings. And make sure that your submissions are approved still waiting for approval. Approved links are helpful for giving quality inbounds i think.

pro_seo




msg:3766996
 12:18 pm on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Okay, I've optimized my website with keywords...
I've submitted to loads of directories.
I've submitted atleast 35 articles
I've got a blog
I'm getting incoming links to my website (Contextual)

Is there really anything else I can do?
Any sneaky tricks that I don't know about to get links?

Some clarifications to help you:

1. I've submitted to loads of directories - Mostly wasted...did u see significant improvement in ranks with those submissions? I guess not.

2. I've submitted atleast 35 articles - Where? On your website or on article submission websites? I assume going by general SEO practices..it's the later one. In that case, you actually fed content to the article directories helping them [the article dirs] to get increased traffic through long tails and even links [if the article you submitted is link worthy]...and you gave them all this for a petty link that doesn't matter in terms of improving ranks in Google.

3. I've got a blog - And then? What did u do with your blog? Believe it or not, a blog is a super powerful tool when it comes to getting links and promotion for your parent domain. Create informative posts and promote it through social media. If your post if of superior quality, you will soon find it attracting lots of links from all quarters.

4. I'm getting incoming links to my website (Contextual) - How? Are you getting links from dirs and article submissions? If yes, time to re-think about your link development strategy and work towards creating and putting up quality content on your own website to start attracting links naturally.

Best of luck!

wheel




msg:3767037
 1:31 pm on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is there really anything else I can do?
Any sneaky tricks that I don't know about to get links?

Everything you're describing involves hiding in a whole and having no contact with other 'real' webmasters. The sneakiest trick I know of is to pop your head up and speak to other webmasters. Have a chat with them, find a reason why they might give you a link and ask for it. It's bulletproof. It's a real citation which is what Google is looking for, it's unlikely anyone will be able to knock you off, and it's unlikely that your competitors who are stuck doing article submissions are going to follow your lead.

It's sneaky because most people won't do that.

If you're looking for automation or lists, I don't think there's anything sneaky left. if there is, you're not going to find it publicly here. The problem is that if there were something 'sneaky' going on that takes them to the top of the SERPS, then others can see what they're doing and duplicate it. Which makes it either publicly available knowledge or a method that shortly doesn't work. Kind of like a 'perfect market'.

One of the easiest things to do though is to start checking the backlinks of people who are currently ranking. There's always tons of places to get links there. And you'll see if anyone is doing anything 'sneaky'.

ashanka




msg:3767961
 2:40 pm on Oct 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Please explain more on what do you mean when you say -

I'm getting incoming links to my website (Contextual)

Ashanka

Yoshimi




msg:3768003
 3:31 pm on Oct 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I couldn't agree more, or put it better then pro_seo. There is no substitute for hard work when it comes to link building and making a relevant, well linked to website.

ashanka




msg:3768507
 8:43 am on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hello,

Get natural links, by asking people to review your site and link to you through those reviews.

Ashanka

Makaveli2007




msg:3768512
 8:53 am on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Link building reminds me of "getting past your man" in basketball.

I remember playing basketball with somebody who'd complain: "well my problem is, I can't get past the defender". Not trying to talk bad about him or anything, but I think this is a nice analogy to link building. He just complained (and continued to do so) that he couldn't get "past his man". However he never really tried to find out what to do to get past his man. He just siad "I can't get past the defender" without paying much thought to what it takes to do so.

With link building I think it's a little bit the same way. It's just as important in SEO as getting past your man in basketball (extremely important). And on forums you often see posts of people asking "I can't get links to my website. Help! How do I get links to my website?".

The thing is...Getting links to a website = a problem. I'd say it's the hardest thing about SEO for most people. So one should consider it a big problem, allocate like 50% of your SEO time to it and then try to find techniques in order to get past y our defender...eh I mean to get quality links ;).

I don't think anybody asking this question on a forum (no offense, Yackstovick, I can tell that you have put some thought into it already!) will ever get a decent answer. Nobody's gonna say: Hey..hold on, stranger..now that you ask, I feel like sharing all the ideas/techniques I've developed (by thinking and testing for hundreds or thousands of hours) for getting good quality links with you!

I've easily seen dozens of posts like that. A poster (who usually only has but a handful of posts on that forum) asks: "How do I get links to my website?"...and usually he doesnt get the reply he probably wishes to get.

PS: I have to know!- after all I've asked this question on a forum before, too ;)

ashanka




msg:3768532
 10:21 am on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Nice one Makaveli2007,

But I would give links to someone who asks me for them. That's what I do.

Well won't be giving away work secrets, interferes with the contract, but a little bit of discussion is always invited.

But it's true coming to forums and asking for help, "can't get links" doesn't work, because everyone else is also looking for the same, with different approach.

Ask your questions straight. Give information of what you have done and are doing, if someone like me comes across your post we would give a / some suggestions, feedback etc.

But writing a word or sentence "Help" doesn't help. :)

Makaveli2007




msg:3768592
 11:04 am on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

I hope this didnt come off as offensive or something @the initial poster, because he obviously did try some things and was asking a real question, but he probably won't get the reply he wanted to (if there are any sneaky tricks).

My point was really just that getting links = a problem. And that problem needs to be solved. Most things about SEO (the technical stuff) can be read online or you can just ask a question and you'll get a straight answer (I ask tech questions quite a bit ;)), but with link building it's different. It's that one big "problem" and the better you're able to solve it the more successful your site is going to be. So you should consider it just that (a problem) and allocate as much of your resources/time to solve it and become good at solving that problem.

wheel




msg:3768655
 12:44 pm on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Actually, every bit of advice you'll ever need to run a high end link building campaign is right in this very forum - including specifics. Problem is, most people refuse to believe or implement.

You have to get links from top quality websites. Which means you have to somehow find top quality websites, contact them directly, and convince them to link to you.

Finding quality sites isn't that hard. You search for them on Google. Ways of searching, there's plenty of posts here with specifics already.

Contacting them, well most people won't. There's your secret if ever there was one, and what seperates most link building campaigns. Personally I contact people all the time and ask for a link.

Finally, you have to convince them to give you a link. there are variations on how to do that, most that I know are already posted in this forum. The most common way is to have some type of interesting content. Do you need us to babysit you with specifics of exactly what that is? No, use your head.

In reality, most people want to autosubmit their link building. And that's the secret - put the work in and do it manually. It works, but most people won't do it - that's why it's a sneaky trick.

Pretty much all I do is find variations (or remember old ones from here) on how to create something new and interesting to publish on my site, then find variations on ways to find interesting sites to ask for a link. then I ask for a link. the better your site is, and the more targetted the site is that you ask for a link, the better your success is. Again, that's all I do pretty much - and I outrank billion dollar companies. I also outrank companies spending lots of money on SEO. So there's *my* secret sneaky trick.

When you boil it down, there is no secret. I just told you exactly how I rank, just apply it to your industry and read the older posts here for ideas and variations.

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