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How many submissions to online directories a day?
free online directory submissions
halcyonlost




msg:3622049
 7:50 pm on Apr 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi guys,

So I have a list of well over 500 free online directories that I plan to submit to. I want to do them as fast as possible but I'm afraid the SE's might see it as spam.

How many can I do a day without causing the SE's to think I'm spamming.

Notes:
- The site is PR 2 with 550 backlinks from yahoo explorer. Site has been online since 2003.

- All online directories are one-way links, all are PR+

- I can get these done very quickly(no more then week).

Thanks in advance,
Hal

 

centime




msg:3622056
 7:56 pm on Apr 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

if you could submit to all 500 in 1 minute it probably wouldn't matter

it'll take the 500 directories up to 6 months , at different rates to process your submission, not all will accept your site

it will also take the search engine a long time to index an cache the pages of those directories

As long as the directories are acceptable to you,,,

daveshap




msg:3622375
 5:27 am on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I would strongly advise against getting 500 links from free online directories. Link values are generally inversely proportional to the amount of effort it takes to acquire them, ie the easier a link is to acquire the less it is worth. You are also polluting your link profile as an aggregate.

halcyonlost




msg:3623203
 12:01 am on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the replies Centtime and Dave.

Dave: Even if the value of these sites is PR 2-7(ours is 2)? Also, I thought it didn't matter as long as I don't link to them.

daveshap




msg:3623357
 5:16 am on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

There are many other things to consider besides raw PR of the pages linking back to you.

The PR that you can see in the toolbar is not really reflective of how much link credit will be passed in the eyes of the search engines.

centime




msg:3623525
 12:38 pm on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

This may sound strange, but some people have been known to get traffic from directories :)

Perhaps i've spent too much time glaring at GA stats :)

MiniAlex




msg:3624711
 4:47 pm on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

do you get punished for having links on directories without linking to them?

howardam




msg:3629498
 8:40 pm on Apr 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

Punished by whom? The directory or the SEs? If it is a directory that requires a reciprocal, it probably isn't worth it.

Rosalind




msg:3634885
 10:19 am on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Halcyonlost, I can guess which list you're using. Spread your submissions over a fortnight, and you'll have no problem.

Just make sure that when you submit your site to niche and regional directories, you only submit to relevant ones. Anything else is a waste of your time, and the directory owners will see it as spam.

Learning Never Ends




msg:3634937
 12:02 pm on Apr 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Halcyonlost, I suggest you to maintain the speed. We usually do 20-30 domain submission daily and do not give link back to them.
Instead of concentrating on directory submission,I suggest you search for relevant websites and request them for one way link.

halcyonlost




msg:3635996
 2:25 am on Apr 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the advice guys. I ended up having them all done in 2 weeks. I rotated different alt text and subpages. I will let everyone know how it worked out once they show up.

netchicken1




msg:3636017
 3:29 am on Apr 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Surely the kerfuffel over the last few years with plunging PR's etc would drive serious webmasters away from this system. Its like having internet leprosy ...

mfishy




msg:3636408
 1:51 am on Apr 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

I would do it as fast as possible and vary it a lot. It will take Google a long time to find all the links when they are processed and the whole "speed of links" deal is basically a myth for older sites....

All that said, directories generally suck. You may want to just buy some links.

MiniAlex




msg:3636710
 1:48 pm on Apr 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

i have a website already for 6-7 years. we have been on a lot of directories before. now i dont even find one of them on the google links. that being said there is a couple of them who generate traffic, god know how. might be crawlers.

CainIV




msg:3637359
 5:50 am on Apr 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Im voting 0

:)

halcyonlost




msg:3638405
 10:57 am on Apr 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hey Guys,

Google just updated and is now showing a very few number of the directories linking in. I'm starting to see our SERPS go up for the words I targeted with alt text. Our trophy KW went from #34 to #17 and we are already getting a lot more traffic from it. The other words I targeted are now all on page one. Heh, PR went up to 3 for whatever that's worth...

This is my first real contribution and I want to say to all the other guys out there, if you have an idea, try it yourself. I only wish I had thought of this sooner. And be very careful of the advice you get on here.

PS: I'm not getting any real traffic from these directories, I only did this to improve my SERPS.

Thanks to Centime, Rosalind, Learning, and Mfishy

GrantG




msg:3640939
 11:04 am on May 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

20-30 submissions a day is perfectly acceptable for a 5-day week. From that, you'll likely see 15-20 accepted (if your site has good content), and 5 a week, at best, will get indexed by Google.

MiniAlex




msg:3641980
 2:57 pm on May 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

and? anything interesting? did you do the links?
too early to see if google sees it i guess.
on google webmasters tools you can see who links to you. if it there google counts it!

reallykool




msg:3680514
 12:39 am on Jun 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

I started using article directories for one of my sites in March. I used article directories to get around 2,000 backlinks to my site (2 years old, 10k links already) specifically targeted towards a certain group of keywords for which I didn't rank at all.

in about 75 days I was ranking #4-5 on google for the search terms. I also used comments from do-follow blogs but only got around 50 of those.

My SE traffic has increased 4 fold since I implemented this.

in my experience, it takes the individual directories about 1-4 weeks to accept your submission. 2/3s of them reject the submission and then it takes a few weeks for SE to index them. If you already have a lot of backlinks, sub'ing them to all the directories is ok.

if you have a few thousand backlinks, I'd submit to 10/day - one of the tools I use allows me to spread out the submission.

pageoneresults




msg:3680527
 1:38 am on Jun 22, 2008 (gmt 0)

So I have a list of well over 500 free online directories that I plan to submit to. I want to do them as fast as possible but I'm afraid the SE's might see it as spam.

This may sound strange, but some people have been known to get traffic from directories.

Halcyonlost, I can guess which list you're using. Spread your submissions over a fortnight, and you'll have no problem. Just make sure that when you submit your site to niche and regional directories, you only submit to relevant ones. Anything else is a waste of your time, and the directory owners will see it as spam.

Halcyonlost, I suggest you to maintain the speed. We usually do 20-30 domain submission daily and do not give link back to them. Instead of concentrating on directory submission, I suggest you search for relevant websites and request them for one way link.


Thanks for the advice guys. I ended up having them all done in 2 weeks. I rotated different alt text and subpages. I will let everyone know how it worked out once they show up.

I would do it as fast as possible and vary it a lot. It will take Google a long time to find all the links when they are processed and the whole "speed of links" deal is basically a myth for older sites.

Google just updated and is now showing a very few number of the directories linking in. I'm starting to see our SERPS go up for the words I targeted with alt text. Our trophy KW went from #34 to #17 and we are already getting a lot more traffic from it. The other words I targeted are now all on page one. Heh, PR went up to 3 for whatever that's worth.

This is my first real contribution and I want to say to all the other guys out there, if you have an idea, try it yourself. I only wish I had thought of this sooner. And be very careful of the advice you get on here.

PS: I'm not getting any real traffic from these directories, I only did this to improve my SERPS.

I started using article directories for one of my sites in March. I used article directories to get around 2,000 backlinks to my site (2 years old, 10k links already) specifically targeted towards a certain group of keywords for which I didn't rank at all. in about 75 days I was ranking #4-5 on google for the search terms. I also used comments from do-follow blogs but only got around 50 of those.

In my experience, it takes the individual directories about 1-4 weeks to accept your submission. 2/3s of them reject the submission and then it takes a few weeks for SE to index them. If you already have a lot of backlinks, sub'ing them to all the directories is ok. If you have a few thousand backlinks, I'd submit to 10/day - one of the tools I use allows me to spread out the submission.

Holy Guacamole! Did we just take a trip back in time? Did someone open up a black hole and suck us into history? I pulled the most notable statements out of this thread and it reads like Circa 2000. In which countries do these directories reside? What the heck are you all on about? Submit to 500 directories? What is that? Seriously, I feel like I took a trip down Memory Lane putting this reply together. Which side of the planet does all this take place?

Personally? I think much of the above is a bunch of malarkey in the true meaning of the word! I know, I know, be nice pageone, but I'm sorry, this is just too much... :)

Oxydada




msg:3696900
 5:21 am on Jul 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wonder how do you that. 500 directories are a lot - I wanted to do that, but most (if not all of them) ask for a reciprocal link. So I guess I shoul link to 500 directories? That seems unlikely :S How did you do it?

[edited by: Oxydada at 5:23 am (utc) on July 12, 2008]

seohunter




msg:3706104
 9:32 am on Jul 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

OMG, the more effort I put into improving on my SEO skills technically.I rea people talking about Directory submission as if SEO is an administrative job. Think outside the box and get relevant and quality link (100+) in a couple of weeks. Now this is what you should be aiming at. I always recommend directory submission if you have a new site.

Let move on to the new productive and research intentive link building activity called "Web 4.0" - Space links

potentialgeek




msg:3706790
 11:20 pm on Jul 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I understand the article submission thing but I don't see how one day Google figures it out and penalizes the artificial link development. Press releases and article sites are artificial. Cheesy, too. :)

ichthyous




msg:3718016
 9:52 pm on Aug 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think much of the above is a bunch of malarkey

Yes I agree...most directory links are absolutely useless. Google doesn't care much about links on pages that are just lists of links and hasn't in a long long time. Most of the directory links I acquired years ago are not even reported by Google in my WMT panel. Any value you do get will be temporary and fleeting at best.

wheel




msg:3718238
 4:04 am on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's only malarkey until you see folks ranking from using a lot of paid directory submissions. Don't see it often, but I think it's still possible.

If you're into research, or just seeing who's doing what, it's worth building a directory just to see who's submitting. You'll see some interesting folks, and you'll get a heads up on who's coming up in the rankings using paid submissions.

halcyonlost




msg:3732097
 3:17 am on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hey Guys,

Just another update:

Google WMT is reading over 50 links from the directories I submitted to which equals to about 10% of total submissions. The keywords I focused on are have leveled off most between position #1 and #10.

I guess what I am happy most about this is that it got my subpages to rank high in the SERPS. I still think link exchanges with quality sites is the way to go as I get some good traffic from link partners. I get virtually no traffic from the directories. Hopefully one day I can afford to hire a real webmaster and get in on the web 4.0 action ;D

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