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Link Building Idea
Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?
Jhet

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 9:20 pm on Mar 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think Iíve come up with a really good way to get a lot of relevant links to my site and increase my rankings for my keywords.

Iím going to create a domain that has thousands of pages of content that is on topic. The content will be free from other sites so I can get the site up quickly. These pages will be stories, articles, lists...whatever is free to use and relevant to my topic. Then, to get the new site recognized by the search engines, Iíll add a few articles to my main site and a few other sites of mine, which already have a PR of 4-6. Then I will put links in the new articles on my existing sites to the new site with all the content. After that, I can just add as many links as I want from the content of the new site to my main site and other sites using the keywords I want from each article. Wahlla! Thousands of links!

In short:
My sites -> Link To -> articles on my sites -> Link To -> my new site -> Links To -> content on my new site -> Links To -> all of my sites with relevant keywords!

Tell me what you think. Please.

 

cabbagehead

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 11:12 pm on Apr 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

> "If you pass a dollar from your right hand to your left hand, are you one dollar richer?"

False analogy. Otherwise, you are suggesting that pagerank is lost at the same level it is gained? I haven't seen any examples of this. A more apt analogy might be somehting to the effect of page rank never being given because the two are related. But therein I would assume is the devil in the details ... there's always a way not to get caught. ;-)

As for the slimey aspect - look - businesses cross-promote and cross-pollenate one another in the real world all the time. There is no overriding social ethic here - we're simply talking about *google's* rules ... and Google only sets these rules because they havent come up with a transparent and reliable system enough yet to properly mitigate these issues. They're covering their own ass - and its almost always at the expense of the small website/entreprenuer trying to get started but getting stuck in the catch 22. So how do you get out of the catch 22? Well, Google's "rules" are great in theory but will get you no where fast.

IMO - do what ya got to do. Just be smart about it and stay under the radar. :)

artek

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 1:48 am on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Great post cabbagehead!

The SE "rules" are for those who want to follow them. They are not law.
Beside they change from time to time anyhow.

The link is a form of recommendation, so if I have two sites and I link them once it is to recommend them to my visitors not to spam SE.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 4:11 am on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Otherwise, you are suggesting that pagerank is lost at the same level it is gained?

From the department of "I hope this makes you happy."
The PR leaving is going out at a rate dependant on how many outgoing links you have, minus a dampening factor which in an exagerrated accurate analogy means your wife is giving you back 75.15 cents.

Cabbagehead, it's an analogy, not a one-to-one comparison. ;)

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 5:17 am on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Tell me what you think. Please.

I would, but I've done that before and came close to being booted of WebmasterWorld one day, no thanks.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 5:17 am (utc) on April 4, 2007]

flack47

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 6:28 pm on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

that really was a great post, cabbagehead

we're simply talking about *google's* rules

That is true, but the bottom line on that is that it's the majority of the search market. Like it or not, there isn't much choice.

I don't believe in going to such great lengths simply to appease Google, when there are other lengths that can be gone to in the interest of the other search engines.

Whether it's legitimate or accepted to do what Jhet suggested isn't the question that I would ask myself. Is it a good use of my efforts/time?

grant

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 6:59 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

The PR leaving is going out at a rate dependant on how many outgoing links you have, minus a dampening factor which in an exagerrated accurate analogy means your wife is giving you back 75.15 cents.

Martinibuster - to clarify, the PR going "out" is not LEAVING, it's being voted. PageRank is not lost, this is a common misconception in the SEO world.

He actually could gain PR in this model, but the problem is the cross-linking, and the PR gain is so marginal it's not worth doing.

Other comments: setting up a network of sites gets exponentially more difficult with each site, because the inbound links need to be increasingly unique.

This situation has nothing to do with IP addresses or whois. Google only looks at inbound links. Cutts and other engineers have said this several times recently.

Whitey

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 10:14 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

There are smart and legitimate ways to interlink sites, but not in this manner, not for this purpose.

btw - It's been thought of, but keep trying everything has it's origins - at least you're thinking and trying.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 6:17 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Martinibuster - to clarify...

I was being sarcastic, it was an analogy, no need to quibble.

callivert

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 3:52 am on Apr 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

This situation has nothing to do with IP addresses or whois. Google only looks at inbound links. Cutts and other engineers have said this several times recently

but are they telling the truth?
okay, nobody but google engineers can answer that, so let me ask two other questions:
a) would you look at these things if you were google? (ie is google strongly motivated to take them into account)
and
b) do these public statements fit in with your own experience?
these aren't rhetorical, I'm genuinely curious.

King_Fisher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 9:02 am on Apr 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

As for the question of whether by passing a dollar from one hand to
other or you any richer,you must take into consideration inflation.

Theoretically you could be poorer as inflation always lowers the
value of national currencies. So if you passed it very s-l-o-w-l-y
you could be poorer.

I got this out of Econ. 101 (I also got a D)

seospecialist

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Msg#: 3287707 posted 6:33 pm on Apr 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

A good way to build relevant links is to comment on other people's blogs. However, make sure that the comment is constructive and relates to the topic of the blog you are commenting on as well as the topic of your blog. For example, if you have a blog about Teambuilding, then find and read blogs on group dynamics and comment on those blogs. Make at least 1 or 2 comments per day for an entire year and you will have built up some quality and relevant inbound links.

callivert

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 3:39 am on Apr 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'll second blog comments. The other neat thing about those is that they actually bring a trickle of traffic if people find your comment interesting. when I say trickle, I mean *trickle*. for people with high-traffic websites it's not worth it, but if you're a lowly newcomer, then it is. but nothing beats approaching authority sites and high ranking directories. Even landing one good link will help out immensely. This happened to me with two sites recently, and suddenly my backlinks went from anemic to quite respectable.

Jhet

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 3:55 pm on Apr 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Wow! It looks like I started a fire and handed you people a gallon of gasoline! Let the burning begin! :) I thought the topic died down and had not looked back for a week or two. Guess I was wrong.

Idolw Ė The free content was supposed to be articles from free article sites. The sites that let you repost their articles as long as you leave the link in the footer.

incrediBiLL Ė LOL! You could have posted what you wanted as far as I was concerned. I wouldnít have taken offence. I was looking for honest thoughts on the matter :)

Bennie

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 2:41 pm on Apr 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

martinibuster, I feel your pain ;P

Whitey, that comment may be a little rich coming from someone in almost the exact situation the OP is proposing.

gavinmcnamee

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 1:43 pm on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have a web design website with a portfolio page that links to the websites i have built. And on the websites i have built i have a link back to my main site at the bottom of each page saying 'web design by...'. Will Google penalize me for this practice? It seem legit to me? Am i right or wrong?

JesperFJ

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3287707 posted 10:18 am on Apr 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

> "If you pass a dollar from your right hand to your left hand, are you one dollar richer?"
Its the worst analogy I have seen (seen it quite some times before). PageRank is not dollars. Furthermore it disguises the fact the most links have valuable anchor texts that benefit whoever it links to. So even if the PageRank did zero out I would still have an inbound link with say Widget in the anchor text that noone can take away from me.

Of course Google could zero out such links under all circumstances, but don't take fo rgranted that they do just yet.

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