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stinky




msg:3268529
 12:48 am on Mar 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Lets say you have a web site that has one way links pointing to it but these links have not been found by yahoo/google.
Note: some of these links are new and some are over 6 months old. Searching for the url in the serps shows up nothing.
Would it be recommended to build a site for the sole purpose of helping google/yahoo find these link locations. The site would list the url's of link pages pointing to the original site. Or would this cause some sort of problem.

 

martinibuster




msg:3268764
 8:42 am on Mar 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

>>>but these links have not been found by yahoo/google.

As far as Google, what shows up in a backlink search does not represent what Google knows about your backlinks. Plus, what does show up in a Google backlink search does not necessarily represent what Google is counting as a backlink.

You really have no way of knowing if a link is found or not. If the link has truly not been found, then it's no good. Any effort to make that link look good is better spent making your actual site look good.

Robert Charlton




msg:3270533
 9:28 am on Mar 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

...but these links have not been found by yahoo/google

If these links really haven't been found by Google in 6 months, then it's likely that those linking pages themselves don't get spidered, for whatever reason, and that those links wouldn't help you.

When you say you can't find the url in the serps, I assume you're talking about the url of the linking page. You don't say, though, how you're searching for it. As martinibuster says, Google knows a lot more about your backlinks than what it shows with the [link:domain] operator.

You could do two other kinds of searches for the linking page and check the cache to see if a link to your page has been indexed.

- one is to do a [site:domain] search for the linking page. If it's a very large site, you might not be able to find the page that way.

- the other is to search for a unique word string on the linking page to see if the page ranks on Google for the string. Pick a string of a half-dozen to a dozen words from the page, put it in quotes, and search on Google. If the page doesn't come up, it's likely the page itself is not indexed in Google, and that your link isn't either.

If it is indexed, and your link is in the cache, it still may be a while before you see the effects of that link, but you know that Google's got it.

Searching for an exact string on the linking page, btw, is one way to evaluate the page in the first place.

Robert Charlton




msg:3270546
 9:49 am on Mar 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Would it be recommended to build a site for the sole purpose of helping google/yahoo find these link locations.

A PS re this part of your question... What martinibuster said... plus, a site to boost all your inbound link pages would most likely hurt you more than it would help you. Google might well notice something unnatural about the linking pattern. I think you'd be turning independent one-ways into what would essentially be a very easy-to-spot mini-network of triangular links.

seoram




msg:3271314
 9:41 am on Mar 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

I liked what Robert Charlton said

"If these links really haven't been found by Google in 6 months, then it's likely that those linking pages themselves don't get spidered, for whatever reason, and that those links wouldn't help you."

Instead of wasting time and money for the building scrap links and a site for that, i would suggest to go for quality links which are already ranking well in SE's and which have quality content

lbobke




msg:3277377
 8:28 am on Mar 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

"You really have no way of knowing if a link is found or not. If the link has truly not been found, then it's no good. Any effort to make that link look good is better spent making your actual site look good"
Hmm,

how about just looking at the cached version of the page, the link is on? I take it that what you see in the cache is what G has indexed - even if it doesn't show up as a "backlink".

futureX




msg:3278449
 4:45 pm on Mar 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

stick the URL in the /addurl for google if you want to make sure google at least knows about it, but if google isnt adding the pages its likely that the links arent worth beans anyway.

Check in webmaster tools, you will see all backlinks here, if you have a large site then downloading the table and searchign it you should be able to find what you're looking for :)

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