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advantage? Issues?
Buckley




msg:3054162
 8:59 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have a pr 5 link from an internal page (level 1 from home page) of a regional search engine. It's a permeant link not a SE listing. I have an opportunity to get a link on their home page pr6. Is there any disadvantage in doing this? Any issues? Any advantage?

Will it be the same as having a pr 5 link from one site and a pr 6 from another or will the fact that both links are from the same site cause some loss in value or worse?

many thanks in advance for your help.

Scott

 

le_gber




msg:3054199
 9:52 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

... I have an opportunity to get a link on their home page pr6. Is there any disadvantage in doing this? Any issues?

No ... well it depends how much / what they want in exchange :)

Any advantage?

yes, you will apear on their homepage so can expect a higher number of visitors coming from them.

Will it be the same as having a pr 5 link from one site and a pr 6 from another or will the fact that both links are from the same site cause some loss in value or worse?

nope not the same as having 2 links from two different sites. Having both links from the same site will not have a as high a positive impact, as if they were from 2 sites, but it's going to be positive nonetheless.

Quadrille




msg:3054204
 9:58 am on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I believe that Google is waaay too sophisticated to grant double benefit for two links from one site to another; I suspect I'm heavily outnumbered by optimists and Google haters.

On the down side, there is general agreement that google depracates paid-for links, and isn't mad keen on link exchanges either. So the more you do it, the more chance google has of catching you.

There are those that still insist that "Incoming Links Can Never Hurt You" - and that used to be true. Not any more.

Incoming links can hurt you if google has reason to believe they are part of an SEO scam (see Matt Cutts for the actual wording!).

In this case, either you or your 'partner' - or both - are very clearly involved in a commercial link deal. And if I can see it without visiting either site, I suspect Google will see it too. ;)

[edited by: Quadrille at 10:00 am (utc) on Aug. 21, 2006]

Buckley




msg:3055250
 4:04 am on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the reply's guys.

Quadrille, what I'm looking at is certainly not, IMO a scam. How can Google confirm (and therefore penalize) that the links I have from a site are there to boost my rankings artificially rather than drive traffic to my site from their site?

The site in concern doesn't advertise blatantly their links for sale. They are a regional search engine. I had to email them to find out how I could get my site listed in their links section (the internal link) as well as their premium links (home page). I could not find anywhere on their site ad rates etc. Plus being a SE, I would have thought having a link on their home page and first level links page would be a legit way of building traffic?

Interested in your thoughts.....

Cheers.

Quadrille




msg:3055367
 7:16 am on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

No-one knows exactly what techniques Google uses, but it's pretty certain they look at linking patterns. they have plenty of experience of spammers, and plenty of experience of Good Guys; If the algorithm spots a 'spammy pattern', a flag goes up.

My guess is that it's pretty sophisticated by now; a link from every page could be quite innocent, but is much more likely in a commercial arrangement; Links from 20 sites with identical anchor text could be innocent, but is more likely in a link exchange .... put together 10 or 20 such factors, and there's a balance of probabilities.

That's why it's best never to let a site even look like a spammer's site!

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