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Home page title tag
jack38

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 12:48 pm on Jul 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

How many keywords should there be in the home page title tag?

I assume that the less there are the more focused the title will be. My title tag has 4 keywords right now, with 79 characters in total. I'm thinking that's too long.

Any thoughts on this?

 

tangor

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:16 pm on Jul 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

As many as it takes, but no more than is needed... The rules are not hard and fast, though the number of characters is limited.

Hoople

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 2:24 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

A point to also keep in mind is the title displayed in downstream search partners is sometimes 1-3 characters less before they show the elipses (....). So what you can see on Google may not show fully on their parners.

The WW 'reference' I used in the past was http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4144296.htm#msg4145279 [webmasterworld.com] I would revise the 70 characters maximum length recommmended in that post down 1-3 characters, possible more. Test it!

Really long titles may not be best unless this page's place in your niche cannot be described adequately otherwise.

bilalseo

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 8:14 pm on Jul 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

a home page title should not greater than 67 characters.. as far as keywords are concerned, their frequency should not exceed by 2.

simonbuzz12



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 2:11 pm on Jul 16, 2011 (gmt 0)

use all your main keywords...

bilalseo

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 4:49 pm on Jul 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

if you use your all main keywords and if they are using without a sense, you will be nearly penalized by google... we called this keyword stuffing :) so don't use all of your keywords in the page title.. use only target or site global keyword, it will help your website find in the google not spammed.

BlueBeacon



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 7:27 am on Aug 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

The maximum length of title tag is 69 Character

markdev



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 7:59 am on Aug 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

Title tag should be 65 character or less. Use your main keyword beginning of title tag and make it attractive. optimize your title tag for use not for search engine.

topr8

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 8:46 am on Aug 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

this question confuses me - surely every word you use in the title is a 'keyword' that is used to decide what the page is about (unless it is a stopword)

lucy24

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 9:41 am on Aug 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

In the eyes of google, "it's" is a keyword. (87,000 guesses how I know this.) So, for that matter, is "word". And "that's". And "though". "Seen". "There's". (Also, inexplicably, "doesn" [sic]). My personal list also includes (transliterated) "amma" and "ammalu". Well, maybe google doesn't know that both mean "and".

Please do not overlook humans when assembling your titles. One site which shall remain nameless has a titling format by which all significant pages begin with the same 31 non-unique characters. (I counted.) This is amazingly un-helpful for the human glancing at a browser tab.

Hoople

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 5:26 pm on Aug 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

all significant pages begin with the same 31 non-unique characters

I've seen that way to often! I just took over a hobby domain recently that had a similar tact --- [brandname] [domain] [page title]

Frontloading keywords works with the reader who is reading left to right.

lucy24

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 8:40 pm on Aug 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

Frontloading keywords works with the reader who is reading left to right.

It should work in any case unless you're in an ancient browser. A script carries directionality information, so any truncated text will be truncated at the end, regardless of whether that's right or left. I just tested this quickly with a made-up document with long quasi-Hebrew title opened in multiple tabs. The text started at the beginning (right edge of available space) and the dotdotdot that marks truncation was on the left.

SandeepRa



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:04 am on Aug 31, 2011 (gmt 0)

It is recommended to keep the title tag between 65-70 characters and try to put your primary targeted keyword in the Title Tag for more search engine benefit.

trontekbattery



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 10:20 am on Oct 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

60 is the limit

digital signage



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 7:51 am on Nov 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Google shows 69 Characters (Including Spaces) for Page Title.

Google shows 156 Characters (Including Spaces) for Meta Description.

SunnyG



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 1:26 pm on Nov 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

Ideal # is 65 . And I agree with Hoople.

creative craig

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 3:31 pm on Nov 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

I try to keep my titles short and punchy and under 60 characters.

I also go for a well formed sentence, not just keyword, keyword, keyword or Keyword Keyword Keyword

zoomboy



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 9:45 am on Dec 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

Google shows 69 Characters (Including Spaces) for Page Title. you can use all 69 keyword but it should make some sens.
For Example,
Title:
Truck parts accessories Magnaflow Y, X pipe exhaust cut out air pump
there are all keywords but making a sens.

ablu272



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 3:35 pm on May 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

It depends. I aim for 54 characters and don't sweat if I need 60.

wolfadeus

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:49 am on Aug 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Do your website for people, not for search engines - the search engine companies do the same (they build their products along the needs of people).

NileCruize



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 10:21 am on Sep 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

As of my personal experience, There should be maximum three primary keywords are has to be in Title tags. I strongly recommend you to targeted unique keyword for every targeted web page and spend some time for URL mapping.

johnnymward



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:30 am on Sep 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

Title tag should be within 60 characters can infuse 3 to 4 keywords.

kemcar



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 2:58 am on Sep 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

I suggest you try to keep your keywords limited to 2 or 3 but you must focus on choosing your keywords as they will decide the future of your website. This is because if the search engine fails to list your website then it will be very difficult to get audience. So my suggestion would be to follow SEO guidelines.

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 4:57 pm on Sep 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

My favorite dish at Thanksgiving is Keyword Stuffing, 4-5 servings per title please. :)

tedster

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 8:05 pm on Sep 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

How many characters Google will display in a title does not depend on counting the characters - it depends on the number of pixels that are used in the width of the final display in search results.

So it's the pixel width and not the number of characters. I've seen tests using only the very narrow-pixel characters that managed to get 101 characters to display in Google.

Even if the original title tag doesn't fit, Google will cut out part of the tag and replace it with an ellipsis [a ...] to make it fit. Their choice of what part to display will include the important keywords from the original query phrase.

So there's no reason to force a useful title tag to fit into any arbitrary size. At the same time, packing a title with many keywords just to try to help your ranking is a very foolish idea, and it can lead to penalties rather than traffic.

[edited by: tedster at 1:29 am (utc) on Sep 30, 2012]

jimbeetle

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Msg#: 4336907 posted 9:15 pm on Sep 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

The best crafted title element is the one that gets the click.

peaksoft



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 10:03 am on Oct 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

There is in home page tag title keywords i thought 60 characters will be present their.Put main keywords which are very important for our website.

sunnyujjawal



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:07 am on Nov 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Check this SEO guide by Google:
[static.googleusercontent.com ]

sunnyujjawal



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 11:10 am on Nov 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

But in 2010 a webmasterworld member londrum says:
the longest i have seen so far is 70 characters, which extended halfway onto a second line. i don't recall it ever stretching onto a second line before.

[webmasterworld.com ]

smith939



 
Msg#: 4336907 posted 6:23 pm on Dec 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Google optimization is totally changing with time. We can use 4-5 keyword but it depend how you use. Google do not tolerate Keyword stuffing.

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