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CWebguy




msg:3442282
 7:45 pm on Sep 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello, thanks for your time to help! I was wondering, if I have a website on "widgets" (how original :-) and I want to make a good ranking on my main home page for phrases including "widgets", for the site title should I use three different phrases I am aiming for that match my site. For instance,

<title>Free widgets, Daily online widgets, Widgets for teens</title>

Or should I change one or two of the "widgets" into synonyms for the keyword "widgets"? Will this hurt the ranking for the phrases or not?

Also, having three instances of "widgets" in the title, is this ok (if it honestly describes the site)?

What do you think?

Thanks!

[edited by: CWebguy at 7:46 pm (utc) on Sep. 5, 2007]

 

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3442385
 9:16 pm on Sep 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

If it honestly defines your site then it is OK but it is not good practice with regard to SEO. When you talk about your site title I assume you mean your page title.

Each page should have a different title so you would be better having three separate pages each optimised for one phrase, e.g Free widgets page, Daily online widgets page and Widgets for teens page.

CWebguy




msg:3442403
 9:36 pm on Sep 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, I have thought about this, but it seems like I would have to be adding "extra pages" that I wouldn't normally have on my site and may look weird to visitors (like what is the purpose of this page).

Can you elaborate please on it not being good SEO?

Also, is it ok to "list" keyword phrases in site title (main page title tag) like <title>keyword phrase 1, phrase 2, phrase 3</title> or will search engines see this as spam?

Thanks!

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3442743
 6:52 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

It would depend on how you list them but done properly it could be acceptable. The problem is that you may dilute the importance of each of them by listing them all.

Yes, I have thought about this, but it seems like I would have to be adding "extra pages" that I wouldn't normally have on my site and may look weird to visitors (like what is the purpose of this page).

Having a page about each of the forms of widgets you offer is not weird but a perfectly acceptable practice.

CWebguy




msg:3443014
 2:13 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, I went ahead and added one page last night. "What is a widget?" So I will see if this helps any or how it performs. Thanks!

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3443150
 4:02 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Best of luck.

People sometimes forget that the search engines index web pages as opposed to web sites. Every page you have on your site provides another opportunity to attract traffic.

Matt Probert




msg:3443215
 5:17 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

People sometimes forget that the search engines index web pages as opposed to web sites. Every page you have on your site provides another opportunity to attract traffic.

People frequently forget that the purpose of a web site is for people, not for page rank nor search engines. The two are different.

I should urge you (vainly I know) not to lose track of purpose.

Matt

CWebguy




msg:3443349
 7:33 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

People sometimes forget that the search engines index web pages as opposed to web sites. Every page you have on your site provides another opportunity to attract traffic.

Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong. Unless you have direct inbound links to these pages, your main page should have better chance of ranking in search engines and drawing customers.

Problem is my main page hardly draws any traffic compared to other pages, so I wanted to do some optimization for it (previously I just had site name followed by a couple words after it).

[edited by: CWebguy at 7:34 pm (utc) on Sep. 6, 2007]

RandomDot




msg:3454205
 7:32 pm on Sep 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Know your demographics, how they search and what language they use to find what they're searching for.

This is just a quick example of how it could be done, without knowing much about teens or the demographic sector at all.

<title>Domain.Com - Where Free, Cool and Crazy Widgets Live.</title>

Domain.Com because it has a branding effect. People read the domain name then, which makes an imprint in their little minds. You want them to think of your domain the second they think about widgets.

Conversation:

a) "Heeeey mate, how's what and whatever?
b) "so cool, you know and all"
- thinks about something to talk about they have in common.
a) "You found any cool new widgets?"
- thinks about it, remembers domain.com and mentions it
b) yah, at domain.com they had a few really...)

Propools




msg:3455983
 2:32 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

I would write a rather lengthy reply but I would just be repeating what BeeDeeDubbleU says.

Remember, there are some General Rules and then there are THE Rules. ;)

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