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How many here use Wordtracker?
*points* yes, you over there
DXL




msg:3282229
 10:40 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been using Overture for years to determine which keywords to use, I only just today found out about Wordtracker. A few hundred a year doesn't sound like an unreasonable investment, unless it doesn't provide much more than Overture does.

So how many people here actually use Wordtracker? Has it been worth the investment, and can you name one thing that really makes it stand out from just using Overture?

 

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3282500
 7:22 am on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have signed up for occasional use and for the time it saved me it was worth it. I am not so sure about the value of its results and their source so I would also like to hear from people who know more about it.

Robert Charlton




msg:3284976
 8:48 pm on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

WT has got a very small database from a small meta search engine with a demographic that's not very similar to Google's.

In my opinion, it's not good at identifying infrequently-searched terms. Because the sample size is so small, the data has to be multiplied up to compensate, and errors tend to be multiplied too.

Overture, on the high end, is skewed at the high and because of automated searches... and because it lumps singulars and plurals together, and groups searches of different word orders together.

On frequently searched terms, WT can be useful in distinguishing among singulars and plurals and indicating relative search order.

I look at a range of tools, including Overture, Trellian, and the Google Adwords external tool (which, alas, has gotten less and less useful for determining order of search frequency). Occasionally, I'll also look at WT.

When you start seeing results in one tool that are way out of line with regard to the others, then it's likely that an automated search has messed up that data.

wolfadeus




msg:3286066
 9:55 am on Mar 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Personally, I am using Overture and Google.

Animated




msg:3304800
 6:31 am on Apr 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

*Looks around * pointing at me? :P
sorry i dont use it i used it a few times out of fun and it was not to accurate i prefer use googles keyword finder.

abhishekkaushik




msg:3318678
 8:12 am on Apr 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Wordtracker is good and gives much more result than overture tools does, but the trueness of the keyword and how much they represent global search is dubious. Perhaps you wish to assess their new free keyword suggestion tool. Compare these result with that of overture. Though people says that wordtracker uses the database from Dogpile a meta search engine but dogpile is taking search results from all major search engines thus using wordtracker is not bad idea.

stever




msg:3318703
 8:45 am on Apr 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

All the keywords tools, including Google Adwords suggestions, are pretty inaccurate and imprecise. If you want ideas it is worth looking through the various sources and Wordtracker is one of those sources.

I've paid for it in the past for short-term projects and since it is so cheap I don't really have any complaints about the standard of information it supplies.

But if you really want to know more definite details about your keyword market get a budget together and buy a limited term ppc campaign.

John_Blake




msg:3318835
 1:22 pm on Apr 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

I prefer to use a tool combining Wordtracker and Overture - The Keyword Suggestion Tool. It is described as "a handy little tool which enables you to show you the results of your query from both Wordtracker and Overture for determining which phrases are searched most often" and it, undoubtedly, performs great.

Philosopher




msg:3318842
 1:31 pm on Apr 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been using Overture, WT, and Keyword Discovery for quite a while.

As mentioned, Overture's results tend to be highly skewed due to automated searches. Combine that with the lumping of singular and plurals and the incorrect ordering of many phrases and it loses it's usefulness.

WT has a fairly small db as Robert mentioned, but it can give you some fairly good data until you get to very small niche phrases at which time it loses it's usefulness.

Keyword Discovery has a much larger db, but it is generated over time so, while it is larger and can be used to look for the smaller niche phrases, it loses it's usefulness when you are looking for seasonal trends.

Summary - None of the options are perfect. They all have their strong points and weak points, which is why I generally use all of them to get a good overall picture of whatever market I'm going after at the time.

steaprok




msg:3319532
 2:22 am on Apr 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

WT has worked well for me, as well as keycompete for site targeted keyword research, overture, trellian , adwords and overture.

I think that covers the range.

anymore suggestions?

Frida




msg:3319937
 1:02 pm on Apr 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am basically working most often with Google, Overture, the Key Suggestion Tool (thanks for the *suggestion*, John Blake). Speaking about their pros and cons, I might say, I am pretty content with all of them - doing a proper job.

OldManStrength




msg:3320069
 3:17 pm on Apr 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have recently started using Keyword Country. It is primarily marketed to help investigate Adsense payouts across various keywords, but there is some interesting info inside no matter what your purposes.

There seems to be a lag (~10 days) in their data and like all keyword tools some of the info is a bit suspect. However, it does offer a few items most don't and I have been spending more and more time with it. I used to rely on Google and Overture keyword tools exclusively and have used most of the others, GoodKeywords, Keyword Discovery, etc.
But for uncovering niches, bids, competition, eCPC, etc. it's my "go to" tool right now.

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