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Apple Demonstrates HTML5
engine




msg:4146925
 1:56 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Apple Demonstrates HTML5 [telegraph.co.uk]
The showcase – published on Apple's website – is aimed at encouraging developers to embrace the HTML5 standard in their web, software and application design. Apple favours HTML5 over rival format Flash, and doesn't support Flash technology on its multimedia devices, such as the iPhone and iPad.

A series of demonstrates show off the technical capabilities of HTML5, from the way it handles videos to the manner in which it can support picture galleries and audio features. However, those wishing to view the demos will need to download and install Safari, Apple's own web browser.


Every new Apple mobile device and every new Mac — along with the latest version of Apple’s Safari web browser — supports web standards including HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript. These web standards are open, reliable, highly secure, and efficient. They allow web designers and developers to create advanced graphics, typography, animations, and transitions. Standards aren’t add-ons to the web. They are the web. And you can start using them today.


[apple.com...]

 

Fotiman




msg:4146936
 2:16 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

It's too bad that they are doing browser sniffing and require Safari. There are other browsers (like Chrome) that would demonstrate the functionality as well.

engine




msg:4146957
 3:11 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Yes, and even though I have Safari, I need quicktime.

iambic9




msg:4147064
 6:35 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Not exactly mind blowing stuff, really nice nonetheless. I have to say, as someone who has a particular interest in typography, I'm really looking foward to being knee deep in HTML5 and CSS3, I do hope that the IE team catch up fast, because myself and many of my associates can't face another couple of years of IE6 and another 10 years of IE7/8.

I don't have chrome installed on this machine, what happens when you visit the site with chrome? I figured Chrome at least would have run the examples as well as Safari, being built on webkit..

blend27




msg:4147075
 6:52 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

engine, same here. I am on Windows/Safari = Please install QuickTime(huge resource hog from past experiences).

iTried

Fotiman




msg:4147092
 7:32 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)


what happens when you visit the site with chrome?

You get a dialog box saying that you need Safari. Chrome would handle the examples fine, but Apple has decided to use the terrible practice of browser sniffing to prevent other browsers from even attempting to handle it. *sigh*

iambic9




msg:4147094
 7:38 pm on Jun 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Nasty. If you're going to browser sniff like it's the 90s, why not check for those that can support the content?

Harry




msg:4147178
 12:40 am on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

In other word, the demo is a fail? If Apple was really interested in showing folks HTML5's features, it wouldn't try to sell you its stupid browser at the same time. Apple is all about being closed. iPass

UserFriendly




msg:4147187
 1:09 am on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

This is like a trip back to 2000, with Apple playing the role of Microsoft.

badbadmonkey




msg:4147267
 7:30 am on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Bugged out on my system too with Safari and QuickTime - bunch of error messaged relating to CoreAVC codecs (?), video and audio failing.

If you're gonna knock Flash, how about getting your own stuff working Apple? What a laugh.

HTML5, the great new open standard. Requires Safari. And QuickTime. And...

coopster




msg:4147344
 1:36 pm on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

I spoofed the user agent with Firefox 3.6.3 and hit the page. Some of it is rendering, the rest ... not so well. Part of it may be all the JavaScript errors though. The client-side code was not written to work cross-browser. Imagine that.

pageoneresults




msg:4147351
 2:04 pm on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Apple, this surely isn't the way to showcase HTML5. You've given all the naysayers enough ammunition to stifle the adoption of HTML5 amongst certain groups, what were you thinking? I wonder what the WHATWG will think of this? Maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to use HTML5?

tangor




msg:4147358
 2:21 pm on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Not all browsers offer this support. But soon other modern browsers will take advantage of these same web standards — and the amazing things they enable web designers to do.

[apple.com...]

Seems like a rather sneaky way to up Safari's installed browsers. :)

StoutFiles




msg:4147370
 3:09 pm on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hey everyone! We are adopting HTML5*, the open standard! Open, for everyone!

*HTML5 can only be viewed with Safari browser.

pageoneresults




msg:4147377
 3:34 pm on Jun 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

HTML5 can only be viewed with Safari browser.


Let's not dis the core HTML5 markup language. Keep in mind that Apple is showcasing various functionality using HTML5 features that are definitely not something you push to a global audience at this stage. This is an attempt to show how HTML5 and advanced functionality can achieve similar results to that of Flash. Although in this instance, I don't think the goal was achieved. :(

badbadmonkey




msg:4147684
 1:47 pm on Jun 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

He's not dissing HTML5, he's being facetious about Apple's demo. They're so contrived and arrogant that this is really their message. It betrays some serious issues in their team.

The great irony for me is that the HTML5 video won't work in Safari for me, while Flash obviously does. On the same page is the point that Flash is no longer required. Hahah.

marketingmagic




msg:4147751
 6:21 pm on Jun 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

What a joke - Apple bans Flash as it's not "open" but then require users to install their crappy Quicktime.

Laughable...

Trav




msg:4148229
 4:52 pm on Jun 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

the definition of 'hypocritical' from various web dictionaries should simply be 301'd to the Apple HTML5 demo...

Hugene




msg:4148410
 9:08 pm on Jun 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

Nice going Apple, user-agent sniffing. That's so dirty.

Are the managers from M$ circa-end-of090ies employed at Apple now?

PS: Is anyone from G, FB, M$ or Apple reading WW? Managers at all these giant corps should be getting a weekly digest email with the thoughts from this board.

tangor




msg:4149272
 12:40 am on Jun 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

Mozilla dumps on Apple's HTML5 demo, and also includes Google in rant:

Mozilla open source evangelist Chris Blizzard has unloaded on both Apple and Google for abusing the HTML5 moniker, confusing netizens everywhere, and undermining the slow march towards truly open web standards.

Blizzard is so peeved at Apple and Google that he even goes so far as to lavish praise on Microsoft for its belated embrace of open standards.

Like so many others among the browserati, Blizzard is fuming over Apple's new "HTML Showcase" site. The site purports to demonstrate Apple's love for web standards, but in the end, it does much the opposite.

[theregister.co.uk...]

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