Msg#: 3942857 posted 2:38 am on Jun 30, 2009 (gmt 0)
If you work in a corporate IT Department you may need to prepare for Aug 25. IE8 will automatically roll out to your system via WSUS (Windows Server Update Services) unless you take steps to ensure that it won't happen until your company's environment is ready.
If your organization uses WSUS and has it configured to auto-approve Update rollup packages, upon acceptance of the Internet Explorer 8 End User License Agreement (EULA) by the WSUS administrator, Internet Explorer 8 will install automatically on computers running Internet Explorer 6 or 7 on supported operating systems.
Msg#: 3942857 posted 4:10 am on Jun 30, 2009 (gmt 0)
For the love of humanity and all that is good and green on Earth, stop using IE6 and IE7!
Actually being a bit more serious I have to blame Microsoft on a few things that have really hurt the industry...namely not understanding who is a what! A web designer works on clientside code while a web developer works on serverside code. I myself do both (you can be both) however the terms aren't interchangeable though they use this out of context on the IE blog all the time! When I first started trying to learn ASP.NET I was absolutely repulsed by the sheer amount of clientside markup used to style the page...in serverside tutorials! This is the main factor in my opinion of why corporations that don't want to spend the money to move on from IE6 (and yes IE7 is hardly any better then IE6) because IE8 renders the page more accordingly to the quality of the code, but the quality of the clientside code generated by websites using IIS servers are for lack of a more diplomatic word trash. Not that ASP.NET pages can't generate beautiful code but the rest of the web is stuck waiting for giant corporations to get their acts in gear and it's truly hurting the industry as a whole.
Msg#: 3942857 posted 9:56 am on Jun 30, 2009 (gmt 0)
Let's hope it'll finally get IE6 behind us forever and that it'll take a huge bite out of the installed base of IE7.
But the more noise they make about the ability to block and the upcoming "forced" upgrade the more they'll scare some out there into being ultra conservative and not upgrade.
From a CSS perspective getting the legacy IE version eradicated is critical in moving the web forward onto standards. Once we're there (I keep wondering how long it'll take) we'll have to tackle the next hurdle: IE8's lack of pre-CSS3 support that all the others already had in place long before it came along ...
Now WSUS means managed computers at a place of business, not the typical household computer. And since businesses are even more reluctant to upgrade to e.g. Vista than home users are (also it's easier for businesses to keep using XP on new hardware than for home users) I'd expect IE6 to still have a bastion in the businesses.
Msg#: 3942857 posted 1:22 pm on Jun 30, 2009 (gmt 0)
Swa, let's not forget that there is no guarantee that we'll see IE9 on XP and I totally agree about IE8 and the horrid lack of critical CSS3 support. Personally XP is the last version of Windows I'll use that isn't being emulated (I'll emulate Vista and eventually 7,8, etc on Linux) though a lot of people aren't waiting for 7, they're just not going to upgrade period. Microsoft committed GUI suicide with Vista and 7 is simply Vista++; and removed useful features (classic start menu, the ability to move the entire My Documents folder and instead changed it to the counter-intuitive micro-management of only moving individual folders, etc). While IE8 made a lot of progress it still needs to cover a large amount of ground to finish catching up.