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The Need for Speed - Google shares help and research
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msg:3939775
 8:12 pm on Jun 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

The Need For Speed [news.cnet.com]
Google has already started to help Web publishers test their sites for stragglers with a Firefox plug-in called PageSpeed, something that Yahoo has also done with YSlow.

In addition to the focus on modernizing protocols through its work on HTML 5, Google also plans to devote a section of this new page calling on governments around the world to improve access to broadband Internet connections.

[code.google.com...]

[developer.yahoo.com...]

 

tedster




msg:3939808
 8:50 pm on Jun 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

The Google Research blog also published some speed test results [googleresearch.blogspot.com], concluding with this killer observation:

a daily impact of 0.5% is of real consequence at the scale of Google web search, or indeed at the scale of most Internet sites

for me, one important issue that this research unconvered is that even delays under 0.5 second had a CUMULATIVE effect on the end user, deterring them from using the site as frequently.

Broadband made a lot of developers lazy - but as far as I'm concerned speed always was a secret weapon and it still is worth getting obsessive about.

EvilSaint




msg:3939934
 12:04 am on Jun 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

Moderator Note: Google will be launching a new website devoted to website speed issues. The following post was moved here from another location:

Webmasters looking for ways to speed up page loading times now have a host of tips and tricks to peruse as Google has launched a new website designed to emphasise the importance of speed on the web, said Richard Rabbat, a product manager at Google.

Google has already spent a great deal of time over the last year or so evangelising technologies such as HTML 5 and JavaScript, pointing towards those improvements as a way of making the web faster and more enjoyable. Speed has long been a primary goal of Google's search engine, with the company often boasting - in contrast to most internet companies - that Google's goal is to get you onto and off of its domain as fast as possible.

...Google has already started to help web publishers test their sites for stragglers with a Firefox plug-in called PageSpeed, something that Yahoo! has also done with YSlow.

Link to article on CNET News below:
[news.cnet.com...]

[edited by: tedster at 6:55 pm (utc) on June 25, 2009]

tedster




msg:3940464
 7:59 pm on Jun 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

It looks like the core url for Google's speed intiative is [code.google.com...]

There's an introductory video where several Google engineers share the vision of a speedier future - and then the real goodies come from two links on the left:

[code.google.com...]

[code.google.com...]

There's really a treasure chest of information and tools here. I've only begun to explore it.

maximillianos




msg:3940612
 12:19 am on Jun 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

These videos started showing up on the webmaster YouTube channel a few days ago. Some basics, but some interesting topics.

tedster




msg:3940621
 1:05 am on Jun 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Some basics...

I know what you mean - but sometimes I need a kick in the pants to remind me to get back to basics. This speed information has done just that for me.

I also noticed that Google's "Page Speed" plug-in for Firefox was just updated, too. I'll have to figure out what's new.

JS_Harris




msg:3941563
 10:54 am on Jun 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

software developers should take notice. Many java calls default to being inside head area of cms's, which serves to slow down a browser BEFORE the bulk of the content loads up. Placing much of the extra calls in the footer would help the page slow down a browser AFTER the bulk is displayed... most won't even know there was a delay.

Once you know your software well you can optimize it a great deal but how many people bother? I'd like to see more emphasis placed on this at the software development stage instead of relying on the end user.

[edited by: JS_Harris at 10:56 am (utc) on June 27, 2009]

tedster




msg:3941838
 2:41 am on Jun 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

I agree - one of the first big insights I got from using the YSlow tool was moving javascript calls to the very end of the source code as much as possible. Nobody ever explained that before Steve Souders when he worked Yahoo (before moving to Google.)

stef25




msg:3942329
 9:38 am on Jun 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

this is why i love google.

im ashamed to say that as a php developer i didnt know simple things like the difference between using double and single quotes for strings; the former looks for variables and replaces them with their value, the latter does not and thus uses less memory.

i havent come across a single book, tutorial or blog that pointed this out - thank you google.

coopster




msg:3947084
 6:13 pm on Jul 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Perl calls it interpolation. I don't recall ever seeing the term used in PHP but the online manual has always described the differences on the Strings [php.net] page.

But don't be ashamed, it is merely discovering/knowing your resources and you are correct, Google has provided yet another resource for us.

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