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Google Chrome Out of Beta
bill




msg:3805728
 2:28 am on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)


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Just installed: Chrome/1.0.154.36

Forgot that they don't auto-notify you of updates like Opera and FireFox.

 

jdMorgan




msg:3805735
 2:36 am on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

No, they don't notify, they just update automatically. However, I suspect that updates will be spread across a few days to avoid overloading their update servers. You can force an update using the "Tools" icon at the upper right in the browser chrome (Tools->About Google Chrome->Check for Updates).

Alternately, you can dig down through google.com to find and download the current version.

Jim

[edited by: jdMorgan at 2:38 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2008]

bill




msg:3805783
 4:20 am on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Ah, I still had an old 0.x version and did a manual upgrade. It's probably because I only open Chrome once every few weeks.

It still needs extensions to make it a day-to-day browser for me.

RonPK




msg:3805960
 9:41 am on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

My stats as of this morning:

Google Chrome 0.2 .. 7812
Google Chrome 0.3 .. 3192
Google Chrome 0.4 .. 2326
Google Chrome 0.5 ..... 1
Google Chrome 1.0 ..... 9

So many users gave the first release at try, but usage dropped quite fast. I read about a deal with Dell about pre-installing Chrome on new PCs; perhaps that will help to reach more users.

httpwebwitch




msg:3806085
 12:57 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

A Google product out of beta? Shocking!

johnnie




msg:3806091
 1:17 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Any word on add-ons? I would love to use this browser full-time,but it needs add-ons to be fully functional imho :)

maximillianos




msg:3806107
 1:44 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I would have used it if the spell-checker worked worth a darn. Perhaps I'll revisit it and see if they fixed that. [UPDATE: It failed my very first spell check test when compared to Firefox]

Even a tech savvy person like me found the interface slightly un-intuitive. No other browser uses the URL address bar as both an address bar AND a search box. That is a little confusing.

And the "Home" button should default to a homepage, not the tab of pages. But that is just my opinion. Some of these little things confused me, so I imagine they confused others as well.

If you want to win users over, you can't make them work to figure things out. That is only going to work with our die-hard fans, who will already be using your product anyway.

Shaddows




msg:3806131
 2:27 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

A Google product out of beta? Shocking!

Ye, but this is a strategic product designed as a pseudo OS for cloud computing, not a fishing expedition into the [popularity-montisation] continuum

mack




msg:3806133
 2:37 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Being out of Beta is unusual for a Google product, but having said that, we have no idea now long it was in closed beta for.

Mack.

httpwebwitch




msg:3806136
 2:39 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

As many others have already speculated, it may also enable a foray into proprietary progressive enhancement - I can imagine soon we could see brilliant new "features" in GMAIL that only work in the Chrome browser with Chrome-only add-ons. But really this is just speculation and imagination.

No other browser uses the URL address bar as both an address bar AND a search box. That is a little confusing.

That's actually one of its most noteworthy innovations. It asserts that requesting and seeking and searching are all the same thing, an assertion that bodes well for the #1 search provider on the www. Chrome is a good product, albeit infantile. I'm surprised they yanked its BETA status so soon.

TinkyWinky




msg:3806155
 2:53 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

yanked its BETA status

Probably two reasons :

i. To get rid of the "everything is in BETA" mantle - even though it still is

ii. As a way of ensuring someone like DELL sees it as a serious player enough to warrant shipping on OEM.

I haven't even bothered to download - for a number of reasons.

i. G has enough information about enough people - you're not getting any more of mine than is necessary

ii. Firefox works perfectly well as does IE7 with a few tweaks

iii. It's not ready by a long shot according to almost everyone that has actually used it.

Wonder how long the hype will last - and their promotion of Firefox browser - especially seeing as that's where they will probably make most in roads in the short term!

SEOMike




msg:3806202
 3:52 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Chrome just crashed on me. First time ever. It took out the entire thing, not just one tab like they say. Not sure what happened. I'm still on version 0.x so I guess it's time to update.

I use chrome a lot because it's so fast. Side-by-side against FF and it blows it away. I do love FF though because of the great plug-ins.

I use a throw-away google account with chrome. When I do "important" stuff I use my covert box.

signor_john




msg:3806207
 4:08 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't care whether they call it a beta or not. Every browser or application is a work in progress, with glitches that need to be fixed and new versions coming along from time to time.

I can think of a few improvements that I'd like to see (such as having PDF files open in the browser window instead of being downloaded to a location on my hard drive), but I find that I'm already using Chrome more than I do IE, Firefox, or Opera--all of which are available on my Windows desktop. I especially like the combined address bar/search box and the fact that one locked-up tab doesn't freeze the entire browser.

maximillianos




msg:3806259
 5:35 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

That's actually one of its most noteworthy innovations. It asserts that requesting and seeking and searching are all the same thing

Innovative is not always user-friendly. For instance when you first open up Chrome, the address appears in that box. But no where does it say you can use it as search box.

Even if you click your cursor into the address box, it lets you edit the address. Not until you delete the entire contents can you actually use it as a search box. Very annoying. There should be at the very least a "clear" type button to delete the address from the box so you can do a search.

Maybe there is a reason why it has not been done before... As it is now, I think it is a good idea that was poorly implemented.

jdMorgan




msg:3806265
 5:40 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

> I haven't even bothered to download - for a number of reasons.

You should, if for no other reason than to make sure your sites render properly in it, and to be sure that their "V8" JavaScript accelerator doesn't choke on any JS you might use.

For most Webmasters, these HTMAL & Browser forum discussions are not about "which browser is better," but rather, "What's going on in browser development that may affect how my site is rendered and how it functions?"

I currently have eight different browser icons in my "Quick Start" bar, and heavens only knows how many more browsers and versions available in my Start menu. Although I use only one or two of them for my personal browsing, I use all of them when testing new pages, and many of them when testing changes to my pages.

Since Chrome has a powerful company behind it, I consider it worthwhile to use it to check new pages today, even though it hasn't gotten wildly-popular yet, and in fact may never do so. But I wouldn't want to bet against Google, so I consider this checking to be well-worthwhile.

If you have security concerns about Chrome, all that's needed is to set a few rules in your firewall to keep it from phoning home. You can then temporarily relax those rules if you want to download an update.

So, again, this isn't necessarily about which browser is better, but simply about what browsers Webmasters might want to use to check their Web sites for proper rendering and function.

Jim

swa66




msg:3806318
 7:09 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Still windows only so far, although there seems to be plans to make a mac version now (you can add yourself to be warned about that):
[google.com...]

TinkyWinky




msg:3806332
 7:44 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

your sites render properly in it, and to be sure that their "V8" JavaScript accelerator doesn't choke on any JS you might use.

No fair do's - but then that's what I have people do for me ;)

Quadrille




msg:3806356
 8:21 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Wikipedia states that Chrome does well in the first two acid tests [en.wikipedia.org], and not too bad in acid 3. In all cases, much better than IE.

I'd never heard of these tests before; it matched my impressions - especially Opera excelling - but how valid and useful are these tests, and what does that tell us about Chrome?

Quadrille




msg:3806384
 8:56 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

The news is coming thick and fast; Google have announced that
Chrome will be included in the Google Pack [googlesystem.blogspot.com],
nearly - but not quite - displacing FF.

poppyrich




msg:3806442
 10:21 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks like Google has thrown FF under the bus.
"Thanks, fellas, but we needed something that was more under our control."
'way I see it, at least.
I wonder if a lot of FF developers will be moving over to Google soon?

tntpower




msg:3806879
 6:19 pm on Dec 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

No interest at all

listier




msg:3806977
 11:52 pm on Dec 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google beta seems very simple and that's why I don't like it. It is just a plane browser. Sometimes it does not display the pages correct, but I hope some day the fix that. Still Firefox is my favorite browser.

techrealm




msg:3807055
 3:54 am on Dec 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

my banks websites dont recognize the browser as compatible. No plugins... Lots of weird problems... In a word - meh.

adfree




msg:3807681
 8:25 am on Dec 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

"No other browser uses the URL address bar as both an address bar AND a search box. That is a little confusing."

The number of lazy, inexperienced or ignorant users to use the address bar for everything to key in including search is quite large.

Users don't care, the browser shouldn't either. Good move. If its confusing to the experienced users, they can cope.

J_RaD




msg:3809270
 5:39 am on Dec 17, 2008 (gmt 0)


ii. As a way of ensuring someone like DELL sees it as a serious player enough to warrant shipping on OEM.

do you actually how much crap dell loads on their OEM PCS? its standard operation to open up add/remove and spend 20 mins uninstalling dell preinstalled b/s. If you could write them a big enough check you could get ANYTHING pre-installed. It has nothing to do with them seeing chrome as a serious player as it has to do with seeing the signed check.

[edited by: J_RaD at 5:40 am (utc) on Dec. 17, 2008]

Sylver




msg:3811763
 5:51 am on Dec 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Not until you delete the entire contents can you actually use it as a search box. Very annoying. There should be at the very least a "clear" type button to delete the address from the box so you can do a search."

F6 selects the whole content of the address bar (also works in IE and FF).

Chrome is a decent browser. Fast and stable.

Capital_C




msg:3811780
 7:16 am on Dec 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

"A Google product out of beta? Shocking! "

funny comment :)

I agree.

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