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Google Chrome - Google's Browser Project
pageoneresults




msg:3736046
 4:55 pm on Sep 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google Chrome, Google's Browser Project
[techcrunch.com...]

Unlike other modern web browsers, which can only run one process at a time, Google Chrome will give each tab its own process. This speeds up overall performance and saves the entire browser from crashing when one tab causes problems.

The multi-process design requires more memory allocation up front but less memory over time as users tend to multitask. It also prevents your computer from slowing down after you browse for an extended period of time and open/close lots of tabs.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 2:31 pm (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]
[edit reason] fixed link. [/edit]

 

mattur




msg:3736466
 12:29 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

There's now some screen shots at:
[blogoscoped.com...]

Google Chrome's V8 is multi-threaded, compiles JavaScript into machine code, and executes it asynchronously. It has an offline storage API. Each tab/window runs in its own memory space, and there's a built in task manager. Tabs/windows have complete control of the window chrome (see page 24 [google.com]).

Look at the comic and see how much space is dedicated to talking about V8, process isolation and multi-threading. Good for reliable web browsing yes, but more importantly good for running web apps as separate instances of the browser.

If you were looking for a way to make web apps behave more like desktop apps, you'd come up with Chrome. On the page above they even say "if you can just ignore the browser we've done a good job".

In other words, it's a HTML/CSS/JavaScript runtime library/virtual machine disguised as a web browser. It is the Google OS: a virtual, multi-OS platform for web apps. It's Joel's NewSDK [joelonsoftware.com].

Microsoft will be going *crazy* about this. They're still focused on competing with Firefox, a web browser that can act (a bit) like a web app VM. Chrome is a web app VM with a built-in web browser. It's the first step towards a Web OS.

amznVibe




msg:3736477
 1:00 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

So if I am not mistaken, Chrome is going to *require* Google Gears installed?

beachlover




msg:3736481
 1:08 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

From the privacy notice:

Information that Google receives when you use Google Chrome is processed in order to operate and improve Google Chrome and other Google services:

[google.com...]

mattur




msg:3736483
 1:18 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Chrome is going to *require* Google Gears installed?

Looks like it - page 34 [google.com]: "Another thing we built into Google Chrome is Gears"

(i.e. support for the HTML5 client-side storage API).

amznVibe




msg:3736489
 1:26 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I guess the Google Referrals for Firefox are now going to become payouts for getting people to download Chrome. Bet there's gonna be ads for it everywhere soon...

Yoshimi




msg:3736495
 1:42 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Give them a chance Vince, it's still only 6.40 am over there, it will nbe at least another couple of hours before they get to the office!

mattur




msg:3736504
 1:57 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think you're right amznVibe. And as well as pushing it as "The Google Browser" they could potentially push it as a standalone app to Gmail users, "Run Gmail on your computer, even when you're offline..."

Download "Desktop Gmail", get Gmail running on Chrome...

graeme_p




msg:3736514
 2:24 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have always thought that that browser tabs should run in separate processes. I liked Konqueror, except for the Javscript problems it runs into (which this will fix if Apple's work on Webkit does not). Chrome's UI looks great. The only thing that is missing from this, for me, is Firefox's extensability.

amznVibe




msg:3736526
 2:55 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

The great thing about browser tabs running in separate processes is that your next computer with 8 cores just found something to do with all that idle power, lol.

As far as extensibility, did you notice it uses the Netscape plugin interface? (NSAPI)

[edited by: amznVibe at 2:58 pm (utc) on Sep. 2, 2008]

amznVibe




msg:3736529
 3:04 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I guess Mozilla Corp better start saving those Google payments (for the google search home page) which end in 2011. Extremely unlikely Google would renew now unless Chrome's marketshare just doesn't pan out by then somehow. I guess they could invest in petroleum futures ;)

HiHo




msg:3736532
 3:13 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

but more importantly good for running web apps as separate instances of the browser.

sounds like safari 4.

err... do we really need a new browser on the market? I hope this Chrome will not be an excuse to deliver more and more adwords

seodreamer




msg:3736543
 3:19 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I bet we'll get another bunch of CSS and Javascript standards to adapt into our programming world! Lets face it who needs another IF THIS BROWSER THEN function at the top of their page to render it differently?

I agree with the previous poster, the old fox is on the way out vr3 is terrible

pageoneresults




msg:3736545
 3:22 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks like Google are having a Webcast today on Google Chrome...

Webcast Press Event for Launch of Google Chrome
[businesswire.com...]

WHEN: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 11:00 a.m. Pacific/2:00 p.m. Eastern

Quadrille




msg:3736546
 3:23 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Why 'Chrome'? - I think we should be told.

amznVibe




msg:3736552
 3:27 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yeah it's supposed to release at 2pm EDT (2.5 hours)
I've already hacked the UA into AWSTATS to see how many people give it a shot.

Tastatura




msg:3736553
 3:28 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Why 'Chrome'? - I think we should be told.

Because it will take them a long time to polish it to a shine (Beta for 7 years) ;)

Hester




msg:3736570
 3:50 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

IMO this is good news and I hope they hurry because Firefox 3 is a disaster.

I love it and have found no problems using it. The zoom function is great.

I've been using FF for years but this last version was just too much for my machine. Maybe you have a faster machine or a lot more memory but FF3 could just bloated up like a Zeppelin every time I run it.

It runs fine on my ancient PC (AMD XP2000+ 1.7GHz, 1.25Gb RAM (recently upgraded from 512Kb), 80Gb HD etc). Perhaps you're still on Windows 98 or 2000? Or are you using Linux? Or have a bloated machine? FF3 is a dream on XP for me.

I agree with the previous poster, the old fox is on the way out vr3 is terrible

I hope not. I'd never say FF3 is a "disaster" or "terrible". Maybe I've been lucky with it.

httpwebwitch




msg:3736571
 3:52 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Chrome" is developer lingo for the stuff around the edges of your browser - the window, the toolbar, back button, address bar, the status bar, etc. When you design a browser extension, you're enhancing the browser's "chrome". Hence when you open a window with none of that stuff visible, it's referred to as a "chromeless" window.

I think it's a cheeky name, and very apt.

I knew it was only a matter of time before Google introduced a homegrown browser. It was the next logical step in interweb domination. The next step is for G to release their own flavour of Linux.

pageoneresults




msg:3736577
 3:56 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

The next step is for G to release their own flavour of Linux.

Give it some time. They need to get the browser situated first so it works with the OS seamlessly. :)

gibbergibber




msg:3736588
 4:19 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm not completely sure the consumer needs another browser like this, but perhaps Google as a company sees some kind of corporate advantage in trying to dominate the browser world.

--I was merely taken aback at the delay in Mac availability, given the cartoon's repeated reference to Webkit inspiration... --

Despite Google's rather misleading statements about "Apple's Webkit", Webkit does not belong to Apple. Apple's Safari browser uses Webkit, but so does Nokia's S60 OSS browser and several others do too.

--Seriously, unless PC vendors start shipping it with new machines instead of IE it will just split the market with Firefox.--

Agreed, the only people who will know about this will be the kind of tech nerds who downloaded Firefox 3 the day it came out. Ordinary consumers will carry on using whatever browser was bundled with their PC (which for the vast majority will continue to be IE).

dailypress




msg:3736593
 4:25 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

[cnn.com...]

anon123




msg:3736616
 4:52 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

There's supposed to be a live press conference at 11AM Pacific today... Does anybody know the URL to watch the live feed?

Quadrille




msg:3736618
 4:57 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Chrome" is developer lingo for the stuff around the edges of your browser.

The next step is for G to release their own flavour of Linux.

Thanks for them.

Where does chrome put Google in the race to get the best mobile platform - isn't that a bigger prize than the desktop at the moment?

Could this help the next generation of PCs become neater, niftier large screen 'mobile phones', without all that clutter?

[edited by: Quadrille at 4:58 pm (utc) on Sep. 2, 2008]

SEOMike




msg:3736636
 6:01 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Intro song to the online announcement is "Another one bites the dust" HA!

poppyrich




msg:3736637
 6:04 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't expect it to get much traction, no matter how hard they push it.

Users are creatures of habit.

civgroup




msg:3736638
 6:05 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks like our PCs just became dumb terminals where the web is concerned. Wow that was quick.

RonPK




msg:3736640
 6:07 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

[google.com...] still returns 404.

Nice music, but where's Sundar Pichai?

amznVibe




msg:3736642
 6:09 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's on, official release is at noon pst (3pm est)

Here's a tease:
[google.com...]

[edited by: amznVibe at 6:25 pm (utc) on Sep. 2, 2008]

SuzyUK




msg:3736657
 6:30 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Matt Cutts is blogging it live for those who just want snippets

amznVibe




msg:3736670
 6:40 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I admire a company that's not afraid to put it's geeks front-and-center to introduce a new product instead of some polished PR person, lol.

So far it looks pretty good.
If some Firefox plugins get ported I may end up using it more than Firefox...

httpwebwitch




msg:3736674
 6:43 pm on Sep 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

the only people who will know about this will be the kind of tech nerds (snip)

... but add to that everyone who might get pestered and/or sold on it by all the Google services they use. Google has an advantage over FF because they manage to put lots of words in front of eyeballs every day. Can you imagine if they put a serious-looking "update your browser" message in the top spot of every Adsense block?

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