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Google To Close Google Wave
Brett_Tabke




msg:4182256
 4:00 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)



Wave has not seen the user adoption we would have liked. We don’t plan to continue developing Wave as a standalone product, but we will maintain the site at least through the end of the year and extend the technology for use in other Google projects. The central parts of the code, as well as the protocols that have driven many of Wave’s innovations, like drag-and-drop and character-by-character live typing, are already available as open source, so customers and partners can continue the innovation we began. In addition, we will work on tools so that users can easily “liberate” their content from Wave. [googleblog.blogspot.com...]

 

jecasc




msg:4182294
 6:33 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

This would have been a great product especially for international companies. I mean: There is a guy in Australia and you are in France and you can work at the same document at the same time.

Of course one of them will have to adjust his living habits a little bit because he has to work in the middle of the night because of the time difference but hey thats a small price to pay for being able to use such a wonderful product and beeing able to work together....

The simple reason why Google wave failed is that people do not want to work at the same documents at the same time. People want to work quietly and peacefully alone to be more productive then mail the result of their work to the office in China or Australia and then leave their office. And when they wake up the next day and start work they have the feedback in their mailbox.

What was great about the developments in the last years was that technology enabled you to work at different places at the times you choose - and then put all the pieces together. If people would want to communicate in real time and work at the same things at the same time - they would probably work together in one office.

carleisenstein




msg:4182317
 8:07 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

If they'd actually waited until it was finished before they launched it then it might have been a bit more successful. But they used up all of the hype on a product that was frankly fairly unusable.

indigojo




msg:4182339
 9:46 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Shame, it's become a great part of our companies CRM. We use salesforce and it's new chatter component doesn't cut it when compared to Wave. Google should let it live a little longer.

firstconversion




msg:4182349
 10:32 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have 3 different projects runnign inside wave with 2, 3 and 12 people collaborating respectively.

Sad that it will close when it was starting to be useful. Having said that, it could be a whoooole lot smoother to use. I think the usability hump was to high for most people to bother with

OddDog




msg:4182370
 11:20 am on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

A shame. I like wave.

I get the impression that they hyped the product to death. All that fuss before it was a product ready to ship.

tangor




msg:4182419
 12:57 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

In a classic PR lesson in face-saving, Schmidt tried to recast Wave’s failure as proof that the world’s largest ad broker was willing to live dangerously.

"Our policy is we try things," he told reporters, according to CNet’s Ina Fried.

"We celebrate our failures. This is a company where it is absolutely OK to try something that is very hard, have it not be successful, take the learning and apply it to something new." He then added that even though Wave never gained any interest from Google fans, it remained “a very clever product”. Perhaps it was just ahead of the curve, eh, Eric?

[theregister.co.uk...]
Interesting article and some insights into Eric Schmidt's thinking...

Brett_Tabke




msg:4182435
 1:21 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

> Wave’s failure as proof that the world’s largest ad broker
> was willing to live dangerously.

It is also proof that you shouldn't rely on Google because they don't follow through. What they are saying is that it is risky to try new Google products.

Karma




msg:4182468
 2:10 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

I never really got what it was about.

But to be fair I only really watched their launch video.

incrediBILL




msg:4182476
 2:22 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't call Wave a failure, it's a BAILure, Google BAILed on Wave.

They haven't learned from Microsoft yet, you never bail, you just keep piling resources on the project until you have global domination and bury the competition, hopefully before the DOJ wakes up and takes notice!

BwanaZulia




msg:4182495
 2:35 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

This really is a shame. We have learned to love Google Wave and use it for a ton of things at my company.

Hopefully they will reconsider or come out with a replacement product. It is black eye on them though since it shows why companies SHOULDN'T rely on Google and their services.

BZ

brotherhood of LAN




msg:4182501
 2:44 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

are already available as open source


So someone can continue to enhance the service, that's good.

What they are saying is that it is risky to try new Google products.


Indeed... what is "the user adoption we would have liked"? If a Google product isn't a runaway success to begin with, it seems it isn't going to be allowed to get off the ground, ever.

J_RaD




msg:4182524
 3:18 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

now all they have to do is close buzz.

directwheels




msg:4182531
 3:29 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

from their track record, one should probably expect their products to fail most of the times. But at least Google Analytics and Gmail stayed around :)

Alcoholico




msg:4182809
 10:44 pm on Aug 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

What about jaiko and orkut? Do they still think that is going to work? Jaiko, for instance, is just a spammer's nest, well twitter on the other hand....

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4183029
 9:48 am on Aug 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

J-RaD, absolutely. Google launched that right when people got sick and tired of pressing ANY button to promote junk. They were late to the craze and, well, I've never buzzed anything and I'm not alone.

StoutFiles




msg:4183116
 1:57 pm on Aug 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

Don't worry everyone, I assume we'll see many if not all the features of Google Wave appearing on Google's up-and-coming social site. The major selling points about Wave were real time typing and group document work; I can almost guarantee they'll be used in "Google Me" just on the grounds that Facebook doesn't have either.

CainIV




msg:4183438
 2:44 am on Aug 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

It's what happens when you try and continuously copy what others do and expect that this duplication will fly.

There aren't two Facebooks or Twitters, but Google seems content simply replicating everything else that has already been done in order to gain traction.

Shame, really, all those brains and very few creative bones at the shop...

ByronM




msg:4183708
 9:36 pm on Aug 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I think what screwed wave over the most was the horrible invite process.. If google couldn't launch a global product with their billions of dollars they're sitting on then we're they really standing behind it much? The invites weren't really invites, they were hey, give me all your friends email addresses and after we sit on the "invite" for a while we may or may not let them in.

eatcarrots




msg:4183773
 7:49 am on Aug 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Honestly, it's not a bad tool. At first I was kind of turned off by it, because it was launched like it was the greatest thing in the world.

I eventually got around to signing up for it and using it. Of all the things it had, here's what it was good for --> Sharing a 'thread' with a selected group of people.

All the other stuff, like tracking the order of characters being input, and the widgets were kind of useless for me.

I'll keep using it until they kill it.

tntpower




msg:4184507
 11:08 pm on Aug 9, 2010 (gmt 0)

G$$gle once again shows the world what "Not Professional" is.

MesrianiLaw




msg:4184570
 2:29 am on Aug 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

<MesrianiLaw bids goodbye to Google Wave>

What a shame! Google pulled the plug on Google Wave prematurely. It's like expecting an infant to learn how to walk way before it can turn on its side.

@ StoutFiles - Finding Google Wave elements in Google Me is a possibility. The question is, can Google's social experiment gain enough following to rival other social networking sites? Or are we looking at another one of Google's celebrated failures?

ronin




msg:4185093
 9:57 pm on Aug 10, 2010 (gmt 0)

I strongly suspect StoutFiles is right and that GoogleMe will turn out to be Wave 2.0. If that does turn out to be the case then Google is not much 'closing' Wave as ensuring that GM has a small army (okay, a very small army) of people ready to sign up enthusiastically as soon as the GM pre-launch invites start rolling out.

Hugene




msg:4185576
 8:55 pm on Aug 11, 2010 (gmt 0)

We are using Wave for collaborating on projects, because none of us work in the same office. It was perfect for that, and it was free.

It's a shame they're throwing it away. I would have seen Wave as being another widget of Gmail (like Buzz). That would have given way more users and quicker adoption. And it kind of fits together really, it's just a mix of email and message board really.

So yeah, big mistake.

And with the dropping of Nexus One, the big G is closing a lot of stuff.

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