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Google disabled account.
thecleaner




msg:4174049
 2:03 pm on Jul 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google disabled my account based on a AFFILIATE website they didn't like which I was promoting.

I deleted the ad and the site and said fine, I wont advertise this site. No big deal. This site didnt even make up 1% of my income.

They still decided they didnt want my business(WHATEVER).

So, I used my girl friends cc which has a totally different address.

AND I changed my IP address, then I created another account under her name.

ALSO I didnt use ANY of the sites from the old account ( I created a new website).

Google wrote me an email and said my new account has been disabled and any OTHER account I make will be disabled.

How the HECK did they know?


PS before anyone says I must be doing something wrong I am NOT. I havnt done anything wrong. What I learned from this experience, if someone working at Google decides they dont like your website they will BAN you period. Even if its a perfectly legit website.

I have been advertising these same sites with google for 5 years now..and spent over 300k in advertising and it just so happened I got reviewed by someone who doesnt want my business.

 

outland88




msg:4176806
 6:41 pm on Jul 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I think you missed the point. Trolling perhaps. Oh, so you own freewarecom.

PayMePerClick




msg:4176820
 7:05 pm on Jul 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Maybe try taking the money you're saving from not advertising on Google and invest in those sign spinner dudes. Idea #1.

trinorthlighting




msg:4176935
 9:59 pm on Jul 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

In all fairness, may be Netmeg could have been getting help from Google if their employees were not having to spend so much time in dealing with people who game the system.

mrguy




msg:4176984
 12:01 am on Jul 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google is far from being fair.

Anybody who has been in the game long enough knows this.

There are two types of webmasters.

1. Those that would sell their soul to Google and offer them their first born if Google asked for it.

2. Those that would tell Google to take a flying leap.

It appears there are both types present in this thread.

wyweb




msg:4176999
 12:55 am on Jul 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

2. Those that would tell Google to take a flying leap.
Yeah, after google's already told them to take a flying leap.

It's easy to cuss out the boss after you've already been fired.

outland88




msg:4177091
 5:08 am on Jul 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

In all fairness, may be Netmeg could have been getting help from Google if their employees were not having to spend so much time in dealing with people who game the system.


Yeah, that must be it. Rolling my eyes back into my head laughing.

If you read some of these posts and the hundreds of clones I'm referring to you might see Google is doing quite a bit of the gaming itself.

trinorthlighting




msg:4177127
 6:54 am on Jul 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

It is googles game. Last time I checked it is their business. Funny how they continue to ban yet revenue increases for them huh?

wyweb




msg:4177849
 12:01 pm on Jul 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

you might see Google is doing quite a bit of the gaming itself.

Google is gaming outland. You bet they are. It's the same game every successful company plays and it's called generating profits. It's called keeping shareholders happy. It's called continued growth.

I am not a Gorg cheerleader. Not by any means. MayDay stuck it up in me and broke it off. A site that consistently recorded 7K unique a day in traffic suddenly fell to around 4k. The traffic went and the revenue that traffic generated went with it. I've probably got a bigger bone to pick with google than most people on this board but I'm not going there because that's not my job. My job is to react and adapt. I'm also looking into hiring a couple of psychics so in the future I can see this crap coming and already be in place when it hits.

My game isn't googles game. They've got their own and I'm just a part-time participant in it. When they change the rules (which is their right and a right I agreed to when I signed up) there isn't anything I can do about that. I can't make them change things back. What I can do is mind my own store and that's what I'm doing.

I have a business relationship with google. I signed a contract with them when I checked that box that indicated I agreed to their terms. I don't go to bed with google at night though. They don't wake up in the morning and fix me pancakes, although they probably should. It's business. Don't take it personally. Don't rant and rave about how they fuucked you. It's their game, their ball, their court.. all you're doing is participating.

Keep it in perspective. That's what I do... or try to anyway...

and always treat your woman like a lady...
never get to old to call her baby...
never let your praying knees get lazy..
and love like craaaaazzzy...


sorry.. had a little country moment there

outland88




msg:4178191
 9:11 pm on Jul 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

Wyweb the point I am getting at is people arenít really reading the posts in this thread much less anywhere else. Theyíre more interested in espousing their opinion of what they think is right and wrong more than anything else.

If people had followed the few examples I have given in this thread it will show Google is allowing hundreds if not thousands of ďcontent lessĒ clones in direct violation of its own guidelines. Why because Google realized just like you, me, and everybody else they could make millions from a lot of Adsense schemes if they directly violated their guidelines. But on the other hand they want 99.9999% of the sheep to produce content. The simple reason why is Google knew many would soon follow suit with the same junk destroying the entire Internet. So who is anybody to condemn an affiliate or anything else when Google is blatantly violating their own guidelines.

Again when TriNorth asks why the profits continue to soar itís never been a mystery to me.

In the case of the original poster who could he turn to? In over 50 dealings with Google every person I dealt with was from India, or surrounding areas, and barely understood English. In fact Iíve had to press a few at Google to finally admit where they were communicating from. Thatís why Google is committed to form mail support and pointing you to links. Secondly as the mess unfolded the OP likely ran into simple fraud control. Google likely didnít want anybody disallowing charges from a third party. To control any potential future abuse the head was severed.

thecleaner




msg:4178946
 2:34 am on Jul 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

outloand..you are right about that. Their customer service SUCK*S!

There was this one lady who looked over my websites and tried to tell me I should change the layout of my site. In so many words she tried to say that google didnt like "sales letter style websites".

I told her, "look I have spent millions of dollars TESTING this website, from the font, to the layout to everything else and you are telling me I should change it all?

If I did that, people would NOT buy from me and it would make no since to even use adwords at all!

This woman barely knew English and knew NOTHING about advertising OR sales copy.

I have spent my entire career learning this stuff and she is supposed to represent an ad agency? What a freaking JOKE!

Had I of taken her seriously, I would have gone broke in about 5 minutes.

I told this woman look " there are thousands of websites (sales copy like) in adwords right now. They make up a HUGE chunk of adwords revenue. She tried to tell me "yeah and when we find them they will be shut down.

Now if you think for a minute that this woman knew what she was talking about think again.

She was reading over the policy's with me and GUESSING as to why someone disabled my account. You think she knew? Heck no. Her guess was as good as mine.


But I know. Its because someone looked at my sites and decided..you know what... I dont like this site...and Im having a bad day so I think I will disable it.


How do I know that? Because Ive spent hundreds of thousands promoting this site for 5 years without ANY complaints until now.


It doesnt make any sense. Adwords promotes themselves as an ADVERTISING agency but behaves like a BORG.

What other website agency on EARTH do you know that tries to tell you how to run your business?

The value of the ads they sell rise and fall based on people like ME who are able to compete with other websites writing hard hitting copy.

Without us they would be nothing more than a fart in the wind.

Let me repeat that in another way...websites like mine (that have hard hitting TESTED copy) are what MAKES google's adwords MONEY.

Google's profit and lose rises and FALLS based on how well MY (and other sites) copy outproforms my competitors.

Each time I increase my sales for one of my websites I am increasing the value of adwords.

You think THEY know what their searchers want? "I" Know exactly what their searchers want and I have STACKS of statistics, test results, and proven case studies to prove it!

This obsession to make every landing page look exactly like about.com is insane.

I advertise a business not a freaking non profit organization.

But I will play the game and I will play it well.

BillyS




msg:4178965
 3:14 am on Jul 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

Well, if they already kicked you out for an affiliate site, what difference does it make if you break their stupid rules?

I don't think this is great advice. What are you really looking for here? Do you want us to tell you how to cheat or defraud Google? Most of us are going to check out on a topic like that. From what I'm reading, it sounds like you'd like to "crash and burn."

Personally, I've had a great relationship with Google. I received some advice that increased my monthly revenue by 25%. I have no reason to think it's an unfair company. Most of us would be happy to tell you how to work with Google. I'm a small time operator and I've had success working with Y!, Bing as well as Google. They do listen IF you aren't trying to cheat them.

It's your call. I suspect that if you try to cheat your way back in, Google will eventually kick you out. I'd suggest looking for a better long-term solution.

wyweb




msg:4179791
 3:23 pm on Jul 31, 2010 (gmt 0)

I don't think this is great advice

It's definitely not, especially from someone who claims to be an adwords expert themself. If I was your client and you advised to game Google and engage in something that was probably illegal, I imagine I'd probably send it over to my lawyer and see what his office had to say about it. If there was a potential suit against you and you lived in the states and had recoverable assets I'd sue your ass back to the stoneage. I've got a guy who loves cases like this and he'd own you before it was over with.

Well, if they already kicked you out for an affiliate site, what difference does it make if you break their stupid rules?

What difference does it make? How about keeping your reputation, if you have one, intact? How about avoiding criminal prosecution or litigation from screwed customers who, in your capacity as an adwords expert, you advised to game the system? How about being able to sleep well at night for Christs sake?

Keep talking. I'm having fun with this one...

Sevin




msg:4181586
 3:30 am on Aug 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google is just trying to cut out the middle man. In the long run, Google will make a lot more money and affiliate marketers will be #*$!ed.

But hey, Google has the right to do this.

tracking90




msg:4182099
 9:26 pm on Aug 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

I don't think google has the right to do this. Google is so close to a monopoloy they need to conduct themselves on a higher level than other companies. They are using their position to enfore the rules for others but not themselves. If they truly do not like affiliate business than why to they run their own affiliate business with Google comparison ad's. type the word in for mortgage and you will see thier own affiliate program. Not only is this the same thing as an affiliate program but look at how they give themselves and advantage over other advertisers. I'm sure they don't have to worry about click through rate and quality score too.

GetReal




msg:4191539
 6:07 pm on Aug 24, 2010 (gmt 0)

Cleaner,
Google has wiretapped all the phones in the United States, so when you discussed this with your girlfriend, Google knew about your plans.

1984?

GR

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