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How Far Does the Google Ban Extend?
mortgagemax




msg:4043519
 5:12 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Assuming all of Google's Policies are adhered to, is my son allowed to open an AdWords account?

 

MrHard




msg:4051060
 11:40 pm on Dec 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Will you block my IP?

sailorjwd




msg:4051992
 11:37 am on Dec 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

I guess you have heard of some families having children to harvest body parts for transplants... now we will have people making children for spare adwords accounts!

I can see the ads now: Buy adwords virgins! New and used here at amazon.

Dr_Netter




msg:4052667
 8:19 pm on Jan 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

Walkman, I beg to differ with you. Google is not just any old company and there are legal and constitutional rights in the US involved here.

Google has 73% share of the search market in the US. By definition, they hold a monopoly. Holding a monopoly is not illegal. In Google's case, in my opinion, they earned it through effective marketing and the ineptness of their competition. But wait! ... there's more...

Antitrust laws were created to protect businesses and consumers from harmful business practices. In addition, a monopoly has a fundamental TRUST with the market and cannot legally violate standards of ETHICAL BEHAVIOR. THAT'S THE LAW. Not a policy from a large US company...IT"S THE US LAW. So, yes, a monopoly like Google does have responsibilities to their paying customers in this issue and should not be allowed to abuse their power in the market.

Regarding the "ethical behavior" aspect, not telling an existing customer SPECIFICALLY WHY they were terminated is ethically wrong on many fronts. An ethical company that cared about their customers would tell them specifically which rule is being breached and give the customer the reasonable ability to correct the breach. In Google's case, it would mean something really difficult like "Because you have broken our Webmaster Guideline(s) that read...". And then give a customer the opportunity to fix the specific issue before sending them a termination letter. This would not have any bearing on giving out trade secrets to competition or giving the "bad guys" a heads up on how to break Google's ranking algorithm. They have already posted the rules. Just tell the customer which one they are violating and give them opportunity(s) and feedback to fix it. To think that a company might have the power to not engage in business with a relative of a terminated customer is shocking. So, the son of a felon needs to put that on his job application because, as we all know, the apple does not fall far from the tree. What kind of Orwellian world are we living in?

This should not be too hard for a monopoly like Google to handle. In the past few months, Google has completely acted recklessly in an area of the sandbox in which I play. They cannot be trusted to be ethical and, therefore, need to be watched very closely in every other area in which they are involved with regard to the personal information they are capturing using free services as bait. We are internet marketers here. Wake up! Is there really such a thing as a free offer without serious strings? Google is not to be trusted. I will never support them unless it means cutting off my nose to spite my face.

trinorthlighting




msg:4052709
 10:11 pm on Jan 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

If you feel that you have been wronged, hire a lawyer. Otherwise you can say all you want to on WebmasterWorld and it will not really make a difference because no one here on WebmasterWorld can really do anything about it.

Dr_Netter




msg:4052721
 11:13 pm on Jan 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

I believe there have been a large number of people severely wronged in the past 3 months by Google. To say that a monopoly like Google has the right to conduct business anyway they see fit is simply not true. After reading some of the comments here, I believe there is a feeling that nothing can be done. You said it yourself. But, that is also simply not true.

The purpose for any forum like this is to communicate. I hope my info was helpful to someone and I hope they take action wisely. I also believe that people united are a powerful force. It cannot help Google to have knowledgeable people like the ones on this forum -- whether you have been affected or not -- understand the problems generated by this very powerful monopoly and be aware of the power an entity like this can have over all of us.

As the saying goes "Information is King". When it comes to information, Google is King. Given their mishandling of privacy issues in the past few years and the excessive use of power discussed on this and other forums, that is scary. Who knows how or what they will do with the info they gather or how they will encroach on someone's rights in the future. If you are comfortable with that, great. I am not.

mortgagemax




msg:4052777
 2:13 am on Jan 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Dr Netter - Although I may not agree with 100% of what you say but you continue to make some excellent points and I appreciate your efforts to keep this topic alive. I am simply exhausted by the entire situation (maybe from shaking my head in utter disbelief).

Dr_Netter




msg:4052784
 2:51 am on Jan 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

I agree.

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