Makes sense to me- if your page takes forever to load, that to me is just as bad as poor quality content.
However, having a penalty that hangs over you for a month just because your server happened to be slow just at the particular point when the Google Quality bot came by... (Especially if the server was overloaded by lots of Google Quality bot hits at the same time!)
I just want to know what they consider "slow" :-)
Good find - thanks for sharing. I hate how they always tend to change/clarify things like this and then bury it in their documentation maze.
|Go here: |
Then search that page for:
"load time affect my landing page quality"
I can't spot anything in the FAQ about load time at this URL?
Thanks for sharing.
ewanfisher: I found the question & answer for load time QS. Maybe you should try again - the page takes a bit of time to load though.
Just checked again. It appears that this sections is omitted from the UK version of the FAQ. Try changing your language (top right) to "English (UK)".
Looking at this further, it appears that a lot of information in the US version is not in the UK version...
This is an interesting develoopment, not the least because Steve Souders recently moved from Yahoo to Google after developing the YSlow tool - and also publishing a book about all the research work that went into it.
Check out this thread:
Speeding Up Your Site - best practices for the front end [webmasterworld.com]
I think you are on to something, in the section of the FAQ that talks about this, they link to the YSlow tool as a resource for more information.
I seem to have a morning full of meetings and other tasks, but wanted to jump in briefly with some clarification and further information.
Before I go on, though, the key information is that this is a planned initiative that has not yet launched. A precise launch date has not yet been set.
A bit more info:
|[...] Well, towards the end I came across this stunner: [...] |
What you came across, jkwilson78, is an outdated FAQ which was loaded into the Help Center in anticipation of a launch which has since been postponed a bit. Inadvertently, this FAQ was not removed.
The short story is this:
* Landing page load time will become an additional factor in determining landing page quality in the near future. An exact date has not been determined.
* A Inside AdWords blog post has always been planned to announce this in advance, to explain why it is occurring and outline the potential benefits to users and advertisers.
* At some point following the blog post, landing page load time will begin to be reported on the Keyword Analysis Page.
* Then, following that, several weeks will pass before load time starts to actually be factored into the Quality Score - so that advertisers will have time to make adjustments to their pages if they wish.
As an aside, now that the page load time initiative has been mentioned in this and other public forums, the Inside AdWords blog post is likely to be posted sooner rather than later - perhaps as early as this week. Once it has been published, although the WebmasterWorld terms prohibit me from linking to it, I will post the text of it here.
|Makes sense to me- if your page takes forever to load, that to me is just as bad as poor quality content. |
Glad to hear you say that, LifeinAsis - and agreed. As I've said a time or two in this forum in the past, if I land on a page that takes more than a moment or two to load, I'm both frustrated and gone. ;)
I hope this sets a few minds at ease - and my apology for the confusion caused by the FAQ which should have been deleted, but wasn't.
And, all that said, a very sharp eye you have there, jkwilson78. ;)
nice , are you a official representative ?
If so , thats great :D
( yeah , i am sort of new here )
I don't know why this is a "stunner". It certainly affects quality.
As for announcements from Google that get postponed (again, and again, and...) - par for the course.
We should consider ourselves lucky that Google was willing to share a bit of detail about their algorithms - they usually aren't.
Gotta love when Google comes in to clarify. Thanks AdwordsAdvisor!
It's not that adding page load as a Quality Score metric is a surprise... in fact it makes a lot of sense.
I think that the interest is probably more due to some accounts recently having more trouble with the Quality Score, and many people are at a loss as to how to deal with this effectively (at least it seems that way from the questions we've been receiving). Staying on top of these kind of changes can help prevent an overall campaign from suffering before the issue becomes a problem and has to be diagnosed.
|Maybe you should try again - the page takes a bit of time to load though. |
If the same algorithm is used as for YSlow then that's good news for us - finally something we understand and can optimise for. Roll on A scores at YSlow!
What're the odds that this is or will be a factor in the organic results as well?
I'm 100% sure it's already in the organic algo.
|I don't know why this is a "stunner". It certainly affects quality. |
Well, I guess "stunner" in the context I used it is inaccurate. It definitely makes sense from a quality standpoint to use load times.
It was a stunner because I honestly expected not to find something new I haven't read numerous times before.
It seems unfair.. The only time my server is slow is when their bots are pounding it.
|Maybe you should try again - the page takes a bit of time to load though. |
:) Cmon give the devil its due, it is the complete FAQ dump.
" It seems unfair.. The only time my server is slow is when their bots are pounding it. "
Then log into Webmaster Tools and slow the bot down.
|Then log into Webmaster Tools and slow the bot down. |
sigh.. We are talking about Adwords, not the SERPs.. the Adwords bot and the Adsense bot pound my servers.. Googlebot is banned from my Adwords destination URLs.
Earlier I wrote:
|[...] As an aside, now that the page load time initiative has been mentioned in this and other public forums, the Inside AdWords blog post is likely to be posted sooner rather than later - perhaps as early as this week. Once it has been published, although the WebmasterWorld terms prohibit me from linking to it, I will post the text of it here. [...] |
I wanted to let you know that the Inside AdWords blog post that I mentioned above was published a short time ago. It's entitled Landing page load time will soon be incorporated into Quality Score.
I am just going to mention it, rather than quote it (as I previously said I would) - because it would lose all the links when copy/pasted - and they are useful.
<off topic> Since I'm talking about the blog, you might also be interested in another (but unrelated) post from earlier today entitled Category Exclusion for the Content Network. </off topic>
It should help advertisers. If you get a click to your site, but it loads too slowly, you lose some potential clients, but still pay for the click!
Well, here is an opportunity for web designers (those that can design quick pages) and developers.
Let's call it the Google Web Designer and Developer Full Employment Act of 2008.
"Landing page load time will soon be incorporated..."
Another big Google Slap coming to a site near you...
AWA, I have some concerns about this quality score update, but I don't want to post the details publicly. How can I send feedback on this issue so that it reaches the right folks?
|Another big Google Slap coming to a site near you... |
I have to disagree this time.
This is absolutely relevant to quality.
Now, if Google would stop catering to advertisers who use overly-broad terms and don't deliver anything relevant...
This is about "landing page quality," right? So, won't affect rankings on search ads. As on this FAQ page:
It will affect search network ads. It's to do with quality score so all your ads/keywords will be taken into account.
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