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Would an AnalyticsAdvisor posting in this forum be of value?
Similar to AdWordsAdvisor - but specific to Google Analytics
AdWordsAdvisor




msg:3558226
 10:21 pm on Jan 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

The subject line pretty much says it all.

I'm curious to know if an AnalyticsAdvisor, who focused entirely on questions related to Google Analytcis, would be of value to members of this forum?

I have a long-term colleague who would be pleased and excited to step into that role if there seems to be interest. To be very straightforward, I can assure you that his answers to Analytics related questions would be much more fully informed than my own. ;)

I've have, of course, run the idea past Brett_Tabke (Founder of WebmasterWorld) before posting this thread - and have his OK.

The basic idea:

AnalyticsAdvisor would post as time allowed - hopefully checking in with this forum at least once a day (Monday through Friday) to see if there are Google Analytics related questions on the table. To set reasonable expectations, given his current schedule, I'm guessing that he could reliably spend somewhere between a half hour to an hour a day. And, given his frequent travel to discuss Analytics there might be some days on which posting was not possible.

About the person who would post as AnalyticsAdvisor:

This colleague is deeply involved with Google Analytics, and is genuinely passionate about helping advertisers learn to use it more effectively. He is a long term user of Analytics himself - having used the product for more than 6 years, starting back in the day when it was known as Urchin. He knows Analytics inside and out, and he knows how to listen to advertisers.

Further, he has the ear of the Analytics team and would be an ideal conduit for getting feedback from this forum to exactly the right folks.

It sounds corny, I know, but I sit about ten feet from this person - and I know him to be a person who lives and breathes Google Analytics.

So - let me know what you think:

Would such a Google Analytics representative be of value to some (or hopefully even many) of you? If it seems like a good idea, he'd be ready to start posting next Wednesday - after returning from some Analytics related travel.

Many thanks in advance for your replies!

AWA

<edit> In such a long post, at least one typo was inevitable, right? </edit>

[edited by: AdWordsAdvisor at 10:40 pm (utc) on Jan. 25, 2008]

 

shorebreak




msg:3558269
 11:17 pm on Jan 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

I personally think it'd be a great idea, although with <25% analytics marketshare, I don't think the person should limit themselves to Google Analytics-related questions especially if he/she's an overall analytics guru. More advertisers than not use an analytics package *other* than GA (Omniture, WebTrends, StatCounter, Coremetrics, ClickTracks, Nedstat, internally-built systems, etc) and while GA is one of the top 3 analytics packages, I don't think it'd served the majority interests of WebmasterWorld members to have a GA-only AA.

More importantly, I think most in the analytics space would say that, unlike SEM, analytics issues have less to do with the particular analytics solution one uses, and much more to do with analytics methodologies, best practices and sharing hard-won experience.

arieng




msg:3558280
 11:30 pm on Jan 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

I would love to see an AnalyticsAdvisor as well, and am especially excited about having a channel to provide feedback to the Google Analytics team.

Rehan




msg:3558294
 11:48 pm on Jan 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Sounds like a great idea. Would he address only AdWords advertisers' issues with Analytics, or those for non-advertisers also?

BTW, while "AdSense" and "AdWords" are unique to Google, "Analytics" is not. So perhaps a username like GAnalyticsAdvisor may be better for clarity.

exposure




msg:3558374
 2:18 am on Jan 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Great idea. Would appreciate it.

We never know where to look when there is an issue. Blogsearch doesn't cut it since most people don't post about something until they understand it, etc...

Thanks

aruns




msg:3558460
 5:38 am on Jan 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think it is a great idea. I think it would be particularly useful to small marketers who cant afford to hire professional support for GA.

jimbeetle




msg:3558463
 5:50 am on Jan 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Great idea, but it shoudn't be limited to the AdWords forum; many folks don't use AdWords but do use GA. How about AA posting in the Analytics forum [webmasterworld.com]?

Marcia




msg:3558467
 6:04 am on Jan 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Absolutely. There's already a general analytics and tracking forum here, but Google Analytics serves a very specialized purpose and could be of enormous value to what I consider to be an important segment of webmasters out there and is more than likely under-utilized by the very people who need it most.

netmeg




msg:3559012
 10:27 am on Jan 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

YES.

I already have a list...

smallcompany




msg:3559270
 11:41 pm on Jan 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Great idea for sure.

Although it looks bit slow right now, we can all expect more analytics questions to come up over the time. The presence of such person would actually help in getting people use it (analytics) more then they do now.

Marcia




msg:3559273
 11:46 pm on Jan 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Shouldn't issues like this be addressed (posted 2 days ago)?

[webmasterworld.com...]

Case closed, it's a no-brainer.

The only two issues that I can see, are that there should be a uniform location for Analytics threads so they can easily be found (especially by a GA Rep with limited time available), and that not all Analytics issues are related to Adwords exclusively.

There are some sites that aren't doing AW at this time that desperately need Google Analytics (which I'm about to suggest), because no matter how you try to focus their pages, some site owners go in and make such keyword soup out of their sites that bots can't figure out which pages are relevant for what it's such a mixed muddle. GA could help focus such sites, and a site owner like that NEEDS to do AW for certain specifics and seasonal KW phrases.

Added:

I just looked: 13 out of the last 20 threads in the Analytics forum are about GA - just in that forum.

[webmasterworld.com...]

And no, an Analytics rep should not support other packages IMHO; their vendors should provide personalized support for their own customers (just not here at WebmasterWorld).

[edited by: Marcia at 12:01 am (utc) on Jan. 28, 2008]

Zuckerman




msg:3560221
 1:15 am on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

My 2cents = yes!

AdWordsAdvisor




msg:3560305
 2:56 am on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Many thanks to all who have replied - I very much appreciate it.

And my apology for getting back to this thread so late in the day - I've been trying to get to WebmasterWorld since early this morning, obviously without much success. ;)

In any event, given what I see here, it seems that we should give this a try and see how it works - then make 'course corrections' as we go.

Below are a few quick comments in response to various posts from this thread. I've had to write this rather quickly, and I've bundled excerpts your quotes by topic - so hope it this isn't confusing.

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I don't think the person should limit themselves to Google Analytics-related questions especially if he/she's an overall analytics guru.

Sounds like a great idea. Would he address only AdWords advertisers' issues with Analytics, or those for non-advertisers also?

Great idea, but it shoudn't be limited to the AdWords forum; many folks don't use AdWords but do use GA. How about AA posting in the Analytics forum?

The only two issues that I can see, are that there should be a uniform location for Analytics threads so they can easily be found (especially by a GA Rep with limited time available), and that not all Analytics issues are related to Adwords exclusively.

Though deeply rooted in the world of Google Analytics, my colleague is in fact a part of the AdWords team - and he is a particular specialist in assisting advertisers with GA. With this in mind, and given his limited availability per day, I think it would be best to start by posting in the AdWords forum. Then, once we see how the time needed vs. time available ratio goes, we'll take another look at posting in the more general forum mentioned by several of you. Sound fair?

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I would love to see an AnalyticsAdvisor as well, and am especially excited about having a channel to provide feedback to the Google Analytics team.

Agreed, arieng - though I have been funneling Analytics related feedback through this same person for a long time, it'll be way more direct now.

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BTW, while "AdSense" and "AdWords" are unique to Google, "Analytics" is not. So perhaps a username like GAnalyticsAdvisor may be better for clarity.

Good point, Rehan, and agreed. That's what we'll do - and GAnalyticsAdvisor will just have to live with the somewhat, uhhhm, questionable sounding signature of 'GAA'!

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YES.

I already have a list...

Excellent! Truth is, netmeg, I've come to count on you for that. ;)

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My 2cents = yes!

Nicely said, Zuckerman, thanks. :)

AWA

netmeg




msg:3561042
 4:30 pm on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is it safe to assume this person (GAA? sounds like a government agency, ork ork) is also reading the GA Google Group? I went in there today, and a lot of the issues we're having, I see that other people are having too.

Marcia




msg:3561816
 10:23 am on Jan 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

Here's a serious issue with the new GA code

[webmasterworld.com...]

AdWordsAdvisor




msg:3563490
 4:03 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

First off, my apology for dropping off the face of the earth for day or so. It's ironic, but both the soon-to-be GAA and I suddenly had way too much to do and way too little time in which to do it in the past couple of days. As a result, the hoped-for GAA posting debut has been somewhat derailed.

Is it safe to assume this person (GAA? sounds like a government agency, ork ork) is also reading the GA Google Group? I went in there today, and a lot of the issues we're having, I see that other people are having too.

Here's a serious issue with the new GA code

[webmasterworld.com...]

These are interesting points/concerns, and, frankly, I am not sure how things will pan out.

From my own past experience in trying to protect the time required to post here every day (OK, most days), I know that it isn't easy. And, while it might be ideal that GAA closely follow the Analytics Help group on Google Groups, and the more general Analytics forums here on WebmasterWorld, I am reasonably sure there is simply not bandwidth for him to do that, and continue to do his core job. To be clear, posting here will be time spent in addition to his 'day job', not in place of it. ;)

That said, we're certainly thinking about this stuff, and we will be consulting with the GA rep who currently posts on the Google Group, etc.

All of the above, combined with the fact that I an sick enough (physically!) that my co-workers would be delighted if I didn't come to work at all (and I may not, actually, for a bit), I am hoping that GAA will be able to start posting early in the week of February 11th. That's what we're going to shoot for, at any rate.

Thanks to you all for your interest, and we will get GAA rolling soon. In the meantime, I do apologize for the delay.

AWA

netmeg




msg:3564295
 9:06 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Feel better.

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