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admagix

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 5:27 pm on Jun 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

2 weeks back, I started a PPA campaign and still i don't see any impressions. I don't understand the reason.

Anybody getting Impressions/Clicks/Conversions?

Thanks! in Advance

 

admagix

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 10:08 am on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

anyone?

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 12:27 pm on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

getting ready to try it, but haven't started yet.

did look through how adsense publishers will be able to see my ads, and am wondering if they'll know how and if they'll bother looking there and i'm concerned with how little they may find. it's not streamlined into the process as well as i had hoped, it's ganged with the other ppa stuff (like offering adwords, google checkout, adsense signups) under "other", so they have to know to look there first. Then G tries it's best to match offers with the adsense publishers site, which is good, but i think they need to make it more obvious - either integrate it into the ad / unit creation process that most use (the adsense blocks) or split it out so it stands on its own and is more noticeable. Other, sitting beside the ppa offers that G already has, doesn't seem to do it justice for me, in terms of opportunity or noticeability.

suspect many will report low uptake.

but i'll post back either way once i've got it offered to adsense publishers.

admagix

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 1:53 pm on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your Feedback RhinoFish!

JBrown

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:42 pm on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Impressions are very low. I turned it on for one small campaign and I'm seeing impressions in the the 10-100 range per day. Still not one click after a month or two.

I'm not optimistic about this program.

poster_boy

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:53 pm on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Still not one click after a month or two.

Similar story here. I launched a group with one of our most high profile terms - after more than a month:

489,557 impressions
36 clicks
0 sales

I don't think I'll invest more time - unless I hear a story that differs from this one.

eWhisper

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:21 am on Jun 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Since it's only PPA, and not PPC, and in beta - I still have a lot of hopes for this program.

It's pretty easy to create a few ads, make a couple compelling offers, and then just sit back and see what happens. If you get some sales, great - if not, then at least you're not paying anything.

I think many people are still seeing low conversions as it's in beta and has a limited amount of publishers who are pushing these offers.

RhinoFish

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 1:56 pm on Jun 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

wouldn't it be easier to mate your existing ppc ads / offers into the ppa stream by setting up and confirming action tracking then adding a ppa offer that compliments your ppc offer?

the way it is, it's not leveraging all of the segmentation and setup we've all worked long and hard to build and test.

i don't quite get why it's all separated.

[edited by: RhinoFish at 1:57 pm (utc) on June 15, 2007]

netmeg

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:40 pm on Jun 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm *trying* to push these on my site, which is in its absolute top peak season for traffic right now, but it's problematic. The user interface they gave us in the AdSense control panel isn't terribly easy to negotiate, and while I have picked a number of categories and vendors to show in the space I've allocated for this, all *I* ever see when I look at the ads is Google Pack ads in German and Italian. I've got multiple support requests in to AdSense on this, but haven't heard anything, and if I don't soon, I'll have to pull them down. Till they get some of this stuff fixed, you probably won't see a good return.

farmboy

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 10:10 pm on Jun 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm an AdSense publisher and I was excited when I heard about this program but have been underwhelmed since the actual implementation.

I visit the available ads about once per week to see what's available, what has changed, etc.

Usually, I pick out a few ads that are of interest. Then I look at the landing page where the person clicking on the ad will end up. I consider the quality of that page, whether the item offered in the ad is easily found on that page and whether there is a lot of other clutter on that page that might distract the visitor/customer.

Then I consider what the visitor has to do for me to earn the "commission". I figure it's much more likely a visitor will request more information (become a lead) than for the visitor to sign-up and pay for a $2,000 vacation package based on a random advertisement.

Next I compare the cost of the product/service to the commission offered. A merchant offering me a $5 commission on a $1,000 sale is not going to get my attention like a merchant offering me a $2 commission on a $20 sale.

Finally I consider the offers as to whether they are a good match for the typical visitors to any of my sites.

So far, based on the above, I'm not currently displaying any PPA ads. I'd rather get the guaranteed earnings from a click with a regular PPC ad as opposed to the might/maybe earnings with a PPA ad.

I expect this will improve over time as merchants learn what is necessary to attract publishers and after Google makes some much-needed improvements.

Here's a suggestion for those of you with current ads or considering ads. Come over the the AdSense forum and start a thread asking publishers what they look for in deciding whether to promote a PPA ad. My guess is you'll get some interesting and free insight.

FarmBoy

burgeltz

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 8:23 pm on Jun 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

I enrolled a few clients and had the same experience - not many impressions at all.

It's a beta program and the distribution network is still small. I don't think we'll be able to judge the program till the network grows.

Key_Master

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 9:34 pm on Jun 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

...if it grows.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 4:40 pm on Jun 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I dunno, I put it up on my site, and it's prominently feature to the tune of about 5000 pageviews per day, and not one single click. I wasn't necessarily expecting any conversions yet, but not so much as a click? Also, some of the text for the ads was, shall we say, uninspiring at best.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 11:23 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

One reason you some of you might not be seeing so many impressions is that today I noticed that for at least part of the time, the PPA ads weren't showing - just a big ole blank space on my site. I'd moved them to a higher location, and picked a different size, and actually got three conversions today, which was real nice, but then for about two hours, every time I checked the site, no CPA ads were showing. Then they were showing in IE but not Firefox, and now they're back.

Don't ask me what's up with that, I guess that's why it's still in beta.

karamkshetra

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 4:31 am on Jun 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have seen very less impressions and no clicks at all. I don't know whether this PPA will work or not.

When it came it was something useful and will get a lot of traffic so I started less traffic keywords but now I have high traffic keywords also and still I haven't got many clicks
:(

rustybrick

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 10:57 am on Jun 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google has now officially expanded the PPA test, so hopefully we will see more traffic and data shortly.

More details at [google.com...]

netmeg

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:06 pm on Jun 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hmm - this is an interesting statement, not sure I entirely understand it:

Going forward, advertisers who have enabled AdWords conversion tracking and received more than 500 conversions from their CPC and CPM-based campaigns in the past 30 days will be automatically added to the beta on a rolling basis.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 2:09 pm on Jun 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

If this thing is still a beta, there should be some place (easy to find) where those of us who are participating can submit our feedback. I am on both ends of it, as an advertiser and a publisher, and (as usual) I have some opinions about how it's working on both ends. I can post them here and hope AWA picks them up, but these go both to the AdWords AND the AdSense side. Should be something in the console.

AdWordsAdvisor

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Msg#: 3365566 posted 12:45 am on Jun 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hmm - this is an interesting statement, not sure I entirely understand it:

Going forward, advertisers who have enabled AdWords conversion tracking and received more than 500 conversions from their CPC and CPM-based campaigns in the past 30 days will be automatically added to the beta on a rolling basis

Sorry if that is not clear, netmeg. I think maybe today's Inside Adwords blog post said it better - here's an excerpt, with bolding added by me:

Starting today, advertisers who use AdWords conversion tracking and receive more than 500 conversions from their cost-per-click (CPC) or cost-per-thousand impressions (CPM) campaigns in the most recent 30-day period will be invited to join this beta test, on a rolling basis. Eligible advertisers will see an alert in their AdWords account informing them that they can now try the PPA beta.

So please rest assured that it is an invitation or an opportunity to try it. I agree that "automatically added" is not clear. Words. You gotta be so careful with those things! ;)

Hope that clarifies - I am not 100% sure I've spoken to the part that was not clear to you. Perhaps it could have been the 30 days part too (which is on a rolling basis.) Let me know if further clarification is needed.

If this thing is still a beta, there should be some place (easy to find) where those of us who are participating can submit our feedback. I am on both ends of it, as an advertiser and a publisher, and (as usual) I have some opinions about how it's working on both ends. I can post them here and hope AWA picks them up, but these go both to the AdWords AND the AdSense side. Should be something in the console.

Sounds like a good idea, and I will pass that feedback on. ;)

BTW, my apologies to all for having been rather scarce on this forum for the past few days. I've been kind of busy with the 'day job'. And since we are on that general subject, here's another reminder that I will not be posting during the entire month of July - as I will be on a rather longer than usual vacation.

AWA

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